2009/12/4 Ярослав Райченко <gruz...@rambler.ru>:
> * Web Kracked <webmas...@krackedpress.com> [Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:54:50
> -0500]:
>>
>> Ярослав Райченко wrote:
>> > *thank you for advice. this is news for me about puppy linux etc.
>
> what
>>
>> i
>> > need from office software is ability to compose macros in a similar
>> way
>> > as msoffice offers by means of vba & ole technology. that's what i
>> have
>> > under windows98 & msoffice 97. can linux + ooo beet MS on this field
>> or
>> > at least be compared? as a newbie for linux i believed this was an
>> > operating system not that resource demanding as Win was. am i wrong?
>> > Alex
>> > Johnny Rosenberg <gurus.knu...@gmail.com> [Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:59:46
>> +0100]:
>> >> 2009/12/3 Ярослав Райченко <gruz...@rambler.ru>:
>> >> > thank you for reply,
>> >> > i simply trying out linux as it is on my older pc (P1, 120mhz,
>> 200M)
>> >> than
>> >> > this redhat release to decide if it is ok for me. for instance, i
>> > can
>> >> > utilize vba on msoffice, but not sure if staroffice(or the likes)
>> > goes
>> >> well
>> >> > on ooo.
>> >>
>> >> Wow… THAT is an old computer… I wouldn't even try to run
>> >> OpenOffice.org on that one, at least not a newer version. 1.1.5
>
> would
>>
>> >> be my choice.
>> >>
>> >> What do you need OpenOffice.org to do for you? If only simple
>
> tasks,
>>
>> >> there are some lot faster solutions for an old computer like yours
>> >> (actually there are many different solutions, but here is one of
>> >> them):
>> >>
>> >> Install Puppy Linux (an incredibly fast Linux distro which runs
>> >> directly from your RAM). OpenOffice.org won't be installed by
>
> default
>>
>> >> but it would be too slow on you computer anyway. Instead, use the
>> much
>> >> lighter and faster GNumeric and AbiWord, I think both are included
>
> in
>>
>> >> Puppy Linux by default.
>> >> But as soon as you need to do something advanced, none of these
>
> will
>>
>> >> be a good choice.
>> >>
>> >> Johnny Rosenberg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> the main idea is to put to life old gear by means of linux due to
>> >> > supposedly linux's better performance. with modern gear i am ok
>> with
>> >> modern
>> >> > mswindows.
>> >> > Alex
>> >> > * John Thompson <j...@vector.os2.dhs.org> [Wed, 2 Dec 2009
>
> 21:30:16
>>
>> >> -0600]:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 2009-11-29, Ярослав Райченко <gruz...@rambler.ru> wrote:
>> >> >> > i currently am possessing a dvd with OO3.0.0 distributive as
>
> exe
>>
>> >> >> file,
>> >> >> > which means it is for Windows. But i want it to install on
>
> Linux
>>
>> >> >
>> >> > (red
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > hat7.1 core 2-4-2). is there any way to get it installed on
>> linux
>> >> >> > (besides redownloding the linux version from site)?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why do you want to run the Windows version on linux? It can be
>> > done,
>> >> >> in principle at least, using Wine or VMWare but your RedHat
>> >> >
>> >> > installation
>> >> >>
>> >> >> is very old and unlikely to support the most current and stable
>> >> >
>> >> > versions
>> >> >>
>> >> >> of these.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why not just get a modern linux distribution CD (IIRC, ubuntu
>
> will
>>
>> >> >
>> >> > mail
>> >> >>
>> >> >> you an installation CD free of charge if you ask) and use the
>> > latest
>> >> >> OOo and latest linux? This would be far more effective than
>
> trying
>>
>> > to
>> >> >> run Windows' OOo on an ancient version of RedHat.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Ярослав Райченко.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Новый ТОП100 - путеводитель по интернету!
>> >> > http://nova.top100.rambler.ru/promo
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>> It all depends on the flavor of Linux. Some are demanding large
>> resources, while others do not. If you look for the light version.
>>
>> http://www.xubuntu.com
>>
>> This link is the Ubuntu light version. Look for this type
>> and you will get rid of much of the stuff in the desktop
>> environment that would cause your computer to slow down
>>
>> [Quote:]
>>
>> Xubuntu releases:
>>
>> * 9.10, codename Karmic Koala (newest stable release).
>> * 8.04.1, codename Hardy Heron, includes Long Term Support.
>>
>> Minimum system requirements
>>
>> You need 192 MB RAM to run the Live CD or 128 MB RAM to install. The
>> Alternate Install CD only requires you to have 64 MB RAM at install
>> time.
>>
>> To install Xubuntu, you need 2.0 GB of free space on your hard disk.
>>
>> Once installed, Xubuntu can run with starting from 192 (or even just
>> 128) MB RAM, but it is strongly recommended to have at least 256 MB
>
> RAM.
>>
>> [unquote:]
>>
>> I started to run it on one old machine, before the power supply died
>> and was not worth replacing. Ran faster than Win 98 or Win 2000/pro
>> on that machine. Win XP home ran too slow, but that is what it's
>> previous owner had loaded when I got it. It was a 166MHz processor.
>>
>> Good luck.
>> At least you can run several language version on the same machine,
>> unlike MS Office, at least it is easy on Windows. I am to new
>> with Linux to know how to do it on Ubuntu.
>>
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> thank you for advice,
> since we drift from the initial topic ,and i have already gleaned from the
> experiance operating linux, that
> 1. one has problems to install smth newer than installed linux ver. (device
> or program),
> 2. consized or lite linux ver. presumes the mentioned in 1. problems.
> I personally installed RH7.1 because it was in a linux textbook, but only
> 1cd from 2 discs distro, which means i was running consized ver.linux on my
> box.
> that leads to unability to install a printer, becaused my samsung ml-2015
> was not mentioned in native printers list. Downloaded unified linux driver
> from
> sumsung site demanded among other uninstalled software cups. Downloaded cups
> requered some libs. Try to install printer from printer's cd asked for gibc.
> downloaded gibc did not installed requering some special installer, compiler
> etc. saying nothing of miles-long installation instructions. the only thing
> i managed to install so far is Webmin (as a substitute to missing
> linux.conf).
> Am i right, to install something in linux you should download and install
> half a dozen another supported software from open source projects regarding
> ver.
> of releases, which would ask you to install smth more and more in multiple
> progression? Or this describes only lite and older linux vers?

If you install only from the repositories, all dependencies are taken
care of automatically in most cases. If you installed a recent distro,
such as Ubuntu 9.10, printers and stuff should be detected
automatically and their drivers will install automatically.

So your issues are (probably) most likely to happen because you have a
really old distro installed. There has been a LOT of Linux development
the last years. Really, a lot! So just don't expect an old distro to
be easy to handle. If you are lucky you won't have much problems, but
in most cases I guess you have to fiddle around quite a bit to make
everything work.

Johnny Rosenberg


>  Alex
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