2009/12/5 Clayton <[email protected]>:
> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>> As a non English speaking person that's very interesting. In Swedish
>> there has never been an extra space required and I started to learn
>> English at school in 1975, and nobody ever mentioned an extra space.
>> So exactly when did this change from being required to NOT being
>> required?
>>
>> On the other hand, in 1975 we didn't use computers at school so maybe
>> that's why they didn't mention anything about spaces…
>
> The two spaces after a full stop thing links way back to the days of
> typewriters, and a need for an em-dash sized space after the full stop.
>  It wasn't actually a requirement of the English language... just a
> standard used by typists (using typewriters that used monospaced fonts),
> that was influenced by traditional typesetting standards and norms from
> the 19th century.
>
>
>> And I am curious about another thing as well: I have noticed that many
>> people writing in English adds an extra space right before a ”!” and a
>> ”?”, which is very ugly and at least in Swedish very wrong. Has that
>> been required too in the past?
>
> This also links back to the days of typewriters, and something called
> "French spacing" which for reasons only truly known by people at the
> time, inserted extra single spaces before and after punctuation marks.
>
> Depending on who you consult on it, the gradual change to single space
> after a full stop started anytime from the 1950s to the 1990s.  The real
> trend is most noticeable with the more common use of variable width
> fonts and computers with office and DTP apps.
>
> Anyone who took traditional typing classes in school, using real
> typewriters (like me) were likely taught to double-space after a full
> stop.  The habit stuck, and I still do it even in my emails :-)

I actually took typing classes in school (around 1980, maybe 1981) and
I don't remember anything about double spaces, but then again, I typed
in Swedish. Yes, it was real typewriters. I actually had a typewriter
at home (my father's but I used it all the time in the second half of
the 1970's).

Johnny Rosenberg


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