In news:d1e2c829c5011e4a84daf8a184dd7cda97079...@bel1exch02.amer.sfnt.local,
McLauchlan, Kevin <[email protected]> typed:
> TWAYNE simply could not resist saying:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Twayne [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 7:16 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [users] Re: How the competition is doing.
>>
>> In
>> news:[email protected].
>> sfnt.local, McLauchlan, Kevin
>> <[email protected]> typed:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> The information contained in this electronic mail
>>> transmission
>>> may be privileged and confidential, and therefore,
>>> protected from disclosure. If you have received this
>>> communication in error, please notify us immediately by
>>> replying to this message and deleting it from your
>>> computer without copying or disclosing it.

Since I didn't receive this in error then, it's interesting that ANY 
company/corporate would allow employees to use company resources for 
participating on publicly accessible newsgroups such as this group is.

>>
>> I must have received this in error because I have no use
>> for
>> it and didn't
>> ask for it plus had no need to know anything in it.
>>    So here's you notification.
>>    I cannot delete it, only you can have any even
>> miniscule chance of deleting it, and I have copied it to
>> my hard drive in order
>> to read it and
>> discover this order from you. And I'm afraid it's been
>> disclosed to the
>> general public at large by being on a newsgroup; that's
>> your
>> fault, not
>> mine! I sure hope everyone reading this notifies you,
>> because
>> its been
>> pretty widely copied to hard drives and been disclosed
>> before
>> it was even
>> possible to read your warning. The only remedy I can think
>> of
>> for you would
>> be to:
>> --   Drop trou
>> --  Scratch butt fiercely with fingernails
>> --   Sit on salt cow lick
>> --  Rub butt fiercely back and forth, side to side and
>> front to back
>> --   Send another confidential statement out
>
> And I, in turn, should have... but didn't... resisted
> saying:

LOL, love the wording of your intro up top there ("couldn't resist..."); 
good one. Based on the date/time I'd imagine this response was also done 
from "work".
   There's no animosity or ill feelings at this end, just amusement at the 
situation; which you aren't the first to do anyway. I have a little time on 
my hands so I thought I'd respond to this for you. It's probably the last 
you'll hear from me though because we're now way off topic.

>
> Hey, T,
>
> C'mon down. Apparently the air up where you live
> is so very, very thin that you can't recognize
> that the offending text is:

Did I say the text was "offending"? I'm not offended, just amused. I also 
have to wonder how long it's been since you read the conditions and terms of 
computer use at your company, even if you are the owner.

>
> a) appended automatically by our corporate servers AFTER
> I hit "Send" and is therefore TOTALLY, COMPETELY, ENTIRELY,
> THOROUGHLY out of my control, and

Well, let's see what that tells us: The post was done at work, on work 
computer/s, which I suspect might be frowned upon by your IT. Do you write 
the posts on company time too, or do you just waste your break times surfing 
the 'net and groups?
   Apparently IT have things locked down enough that you can't go to a free 
mail site and send undilluted e-mails or you'd use those now and then. But 
you don't; you do these on company time. And if you're doing them on your 
own break time, you're making a mistake too because break times are "rewind" 
times; if you must continue to do something during a break, then it should 
be company business, not what would be considered YOUR personal business.
  In the aggregate, that brands you, IMO, as a thief.  If not in company 
time, then in the improper use of company equipment and intentional exposure 
of e-mail Headers the company would not want spread to many unknowns who may 
well have spam or worse uses for the contained information. Some think the 
structure and setup of the gmane system prevents data scraping, etc., but 
that's not 100% true and in most cases it's trivial to get a spider in there 
to scrape information.

>
> b) ugly and ungrammatical enough to have been written by
> oxygen-starved lawyers (oh... izzat it? are you training
> to be a high-altitude lawyer?) and not by somebody competent
> with English.  That is, it's not written by a techwriter.

It's not written by anyone competent, that's for sure. And not lawyers 
either. I suspect it wasn't even written by an educated person and meets a 
very low grade-level on the Fleischman/Kincaid (SP?) scales. The fact you 
claim it's written by a "company" actually makes me wonder about whether 
there actually even is a literal "company" there, or just someone's playtoy.
   Such notices either make criminals out of the readers of any such 
message, OR makes the company look pretty stupid or, minimally, says a lot 
of negative about the actual sender. Otherwise, the notice is judged to be 
meaningless and of no import at all to anyone legally. I'll let you guess 
which one the courts have decided. One went all the way to Supreme Court. 
No, no details on that; it's just "one of those things I read" in my 
travels.

>
> Also, this latest explanation of mine (above) is
> redundant,

Redundant to whom? You placed it there, and it is you who has to defend it. 
Blaming the "company" is the most foolish thing I've ever heard, and I have 
heard it before from other people, but never you. Probably because I don't 
read messages that obviously have no content I'm interested in. Therefore it 
is not redundant in this case.

 since it is merely a more foreceful restatement
> of what I said the LAST couple of times some poor

"more forceful"?  lol, I don't THINK so! It's nothing but your claiming that 
the company "did it" and you have "no control" over it. That's nothing but 
making improper use of company resources, so ... your excuses fall on deaf 
ears here. There are two things that make me feel like answering this post: 
Your complete misunderstanding of the purpose/use of protocols mandated by 
the "company", and your deciding to negatively stand out amongst the 
employees by performing #1.
   If you worked for me, you would never have access to another connection 
to the 'net for anything which in turn means you'd better hope there is 
another position I see fit to place you in because if not, you'd be cleaning 
out your desk under supervision.

> oxygen-starved list-member attempted to shame me for
> something that O B V I O U S L Y is perpetrated by the
> corporate outbound mail server - and not by me.

There it is: "perpetrated by the corporate ... " excuse. If there's actually 
a "corporate" entity, then your problems are worse than discussed above w/r 
to theft and misuse/misapplication. If "corporate" says what you do is OK ir 
has no interest, then I'd turn the tables and tell you you should be looking 
for work with all the head-hunters you can dredge up!

>
> By the way, most people who inhabit the mundane
> (yet oxygenated) world, down here, have seen this
> sort of thing in their mailboxes often enough by
> now to recognize it for the legalistic travesty that
> it is. Perhaps you and your inbox should get out more.

But it didn't come to my "Inbox": It came to the gmane.org newsgroup, which 
is open and free for all to see who might visit the group. One need not be 
signed up to read the messages.

Since McLauchlan and safenet-inc.com could be construed to be quite a large 
company, spending a few minutes researching turned up some interesting, some 
connected last names, but not your first/last. If you're with one of the 
larger holdings I came across, I'd fear for my job if I were you. Yet 
another indicator that you're nothing but a peon there or simply pretending 
to be someone you're not. Or, perhaps you're an example of why there are 66 
U.S. job openings at safenet-inc.com.

Guess that's about all I have to say. In all seriousness, you're making 
improper use of company resources as I previously mentioned and you should 
stop same. If nothing else, you should end all your e-mail with a 
sig-delimiter so that the pointless crap notice doesn't get included in 
responses.
   Since you're apparently easy to PO I suspect you'll not change your 
methods; but a good employee would at least point out the silly banter used 
for that notice.

HTH,

Twayne`

> Cheers, and have really great weekend,
>
>  - Kevin
>
>
>
>
> The information contained in this electronic mail
> transmission may be privileged and confidential, and
> therefore, protected from disclosure. If you have received
> this communication in error, please notify us immediately
> by replying to this message and deleting it from your
> computer without copying
> or disclosing it.





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