[snip]

>
> In the absence of any better advise I would suggest for any issues
resulting
> from the migration you contact the following list "
> [email protected]" ...

> That's a list? [email protected]
> Cite? Do you have details? Or are you just passing the YAL buck?

Yes its a list. Received email. What sort of details?  It operates as an
email list, similar in operation to how other email lists operate for
Openoffice. It is on the new platform so it operates as such. Emails (did
you try?) sent to that address will go to a moderator who will pass the
email onto the list (and yes that happens since I have tried it myself). You
can subscribe to the email list (as with all other email lists) by sending
an email to [email protected]  with subject: "subscribe discuss"
<- without the quotes.

As to the whole 'passing the buck' nonsense - I'm not. If I could help you
myself I would, but I can't. I don't have the ability to re-generate the
welcome email, reset passwords for the OOo site, etc... I can
subscribe/un-subscribe and moderate emails on most of the OOo lists - that's
it. I believe you've been around long enough to know this is not the first
time this has been discussed.

What I am suggesting is the best way I know of helping yourself.
Highlighting specific migration issues, to the email list about migration
issues is a good step. Otherwise you run the risk of having migration issues
being lost in the general users/discuss email traffic. You can of course
continue along that track, however it may not be the best use of your time
(or anyone else reading the users/discuss list).


> Maybe you can tell us where the info for the 'new & improved' mailing
> list are?

> http://support.openoffice.org/ <http://support.openoffice.org/>

> Shall we try:
> Users Mail List (Subscribe /  Archives)
> OpenOffice.org Project community support provided by a network of
> hundreds of experienced users. You must be subscribed to post messages.
> or
> http://support.openoffice.org/project/www/mail_list.html<http://support.openoffice.org/project/www/mail_list.html>
> Not Found
> The page you were looking for doesn't exist.
> You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved.
> or
> some other magical link?

I've already passed along the broken links and I'm sure they will be fixed
when possible. Information about mailing lists can still be found at
http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html

> You are a/the list moderator and key person on this list. Perhaps you
> can get off your high horse (or Oracle slump) and actually provide some
> valid information rather than posts such as this and:

Yep I'm _one_ of the moderators and _one_ of the owners for most of the OOo
lists. I DO NOT work for Oracle. I'm a volunteer just like many others on
this list. I donate my time I do not get paid for assisting with OOo.

The information provided has been valid - you may not have liked it, nor may
it have resolved your issue straight away, but the information is valid. The
link to the mailing list about migration issues is valid. It _is_ the best
way I know of getting migration issues highlighted to the right people.
Those people may be Oracle employed - perhaps venting your spleen at them
may make you feel better, but I suggest that it also may not.


> <quote>
> Oracle folk are monitoring the lists. I'm suggesting that bringing it to
> their attention specifically instead of cluttering users/discuss with
noise
> not related to using OOo is the best source of action.
>
> /paul
> </quote>
>
> If fobbing off folks to YAL and adving that users just send off an email
> (you were implying that I email that address... right?) to
> [email protected] <[email protected]> without
any added information, where it
> goes, who it goes to, etc., etc., then I suggest that you're a lazy moron.

Yes I'm suggesting that you email that list. As stated above I cannot assist
you with your request. It is a migration issue, accordingly...well you heard
this all before so there is no point in repeating...

Personal insults will get you absolutely no where and get nothing fixed



[snip]
>


> While you're at it; it appears that posts (at least mine) are taking 4
> hours to appear:
>
> Subject: Re: Suspect mail
> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 17:46:06 -0800
>
> Original-Received: from mailout02.kenai.com ([192.9.171.175])
>        by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
>        (envelope-from <[email protected]>)
>        id 1Px1YO-0007AI-Hc
>        for [email protected]; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 19:22:40 +0100
>
> Appears to be a list issue... should I also YAL for that as well?
>
>
The delay is probably due to your address not being subscribed to the '
[email protected]' list. Email software, Sympa, sends an email to
moderators to pass/fail each unsubscribed email address post. Once approved,
email is distributed to subscribers (& gmane).

Don't bother ranting on about why you may or may not be subscribed - I can't
answer that. I can assist with re-subscribing. You could do that yourself as
well, but that would be sending an email to another email address, and based
on your previous comments, that may be an issue. If you confirm you want to
be subscribed I'll get it done.

So in summary... You can follow the advice and get your issue raised and
noticed, or continue posting to users list - your choice... One has a higher
chance of getting something done. I can't assist with your existing issue, I
can assist with re-subscribing (once you've confirmed).

/paul
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