Understand your frustration James, but everyone is trying to assist. I believe I understand your issue and think that I've come up with a solution. Bear in mind that I'm using winXP pro (OOo=1.9.109).
In explorer, select tools > folder options Go to the 'file types' tab In the 'registered file types' select the .doc extension. Down the bottom of the window you will see an advanced tab. Select it. In the resulting box, select 'change icon'. You will need to search for the MS Word icon Click 'ok' twice I've just done this for files on my system ending in .dot (word template files). I've maintained that files with this extension open in OOo (and from my tests they still do). This also effects all files viewed from my PC (not just the ones on my local drive or in that specific folder - tested that as well). The end result is that the icon shown in explorer (in my case for all .dot files) is that of M$ Word, however it still opens in OOo. I've added a screen shot of some of the above screens - hope you don't mind. This grew out of what Doug wrote so instead of complaining about the responses that people were giving - try them out and apply your thought to them. You'll find that people in this group offer the best suggestions that I've seen anywhere on any email list. Reply to the list if this doesn't work. /paul On 7/6/05, James Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug - I beg to differ > > What I am trying to do is to PROMOTE OOo by installing it on all the > computers I sell. > > Unfortunately, my customers, while being impressed with OOo, still receive > e-mails with M$ Word attachments, and teachers bring M$ Word documents home > to work on. Neither of these scenarios is a problem as OOo can edit Word > and save the revised copy as a Word document if necessary. However, to the > computer users with borderline computer savvy, it upsets them that a > document which had a big "W" icon on it at work, now has a completely > different icon at home. Unfairly, this imparts a "not quite right" negative > attitude towards OOo, one which, for our collective good, I am trying to > remedy. > > So, if I want M$ icons on OOo documents which have the extension *.doc, and > OOo icons on OOo docs, as a way of promoting OpenOffice.org as the ultimate > in office software, then who is the logical group to ask?: Microsoft or OOo > Users? > > I doubt that M$ would have given me the abundant help that OOo Users did, > when my aim was to take people away from their product. > > Knowing that a lot of OOo Users use Windows, and have knowledge of it, I > think this forum WAS the entirely appropriate place to ask for help, > regardless of: "how receptive Redmond will be to this notion". No one yet > has criticised the OOo team working on M$ Filters as: "trying to integrate a > product that isn't Spawn of the Beast". > > Kind regards, James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: [users] Doucment Icon.? > > > > James: > > > > What you are asking is that OOo modify the behavior of the OS because it > > is the OS and not the application which directs the traffic, or, in this > > case, assigns the icons and initiates the related applications. Thus, > > your quest, while at the remote fringes of possibility, is being directed > > to the wrong party. > > > > I suspect I know how receptive Redmond will be to this notion, especially > > because you are trying to integrate a product that isn't Spawn of the > > Beast, but just because I'm a cynic shouldn't stop you from asking. > > > > Doug > > > > James Elliott wrote: > >> Hi everyone - thanks for the many replies > >> > >> I think a lot of you have misunderstood my challenge. I know about > >> nominating which programs open which types of documents, but this is not > >> about that. However, while still on that subject, let me remind you that > >> when I sell a computer with OOo on it I have OOo set to also open M$ > >> documents and spreadsheets, by default, and I want to leave it that way - > >> not change the default for M$ Word docs so that Wordpad opens them. All > >> I want to do is to change the icon, so that I, or rather, my customers, > >> can visually distinguish between Word and OOo documents in a folder list. > >> > >> When you set the defaults for file types so that, for example, OOo opens > >> all *.sxw Writer documents and M$ Word opens all *.doc Word documents, > >> then which program is chosen to open the selected file is determined by > >> the file extension, not the icon. If the extension is *.doc then M$ Word > >> will open the document (if that is what you have set up), and if it is > >> *.sxw then OOo will open the document. The way I have my file type > >> defaults set up is that OOo opens both *.sxw and *.doc files, and I want > >> to leave it that way. > >> > >> However, somewhere, sometime in the past, I am sure that when I right > >> clicked on a file and then on 'Properties' there was an option to: > >> 'Change the Icon'. > >> > >> That's all I want to do ... Change the Icon ... not the default program > >> which opens the file. > >> > >> I hope this clarifies things. > >> > >> Many thanks for your interest and responses, James > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 7:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: [users] Doucment Icon.? > >> > >> > >> Bottom Post > >> > >> On Monday 27 June 2005 12:13 am, Naomi Kramer wrote: > >> > >>> I suspect that the main problem is Microsoft's habit of making file > >>> extensions invisible by default. I hate this setting with a passion, > >>> because it causes so many problems and far more confusion than it > >>> fixes. The whole point of file extensions, as far as I'm aware, was > >>> always to indicate what FORMAT the file is in. And as far as I'm > >>> aware, the icon has always (in Windows at least) been used simply to > >>> show which program would OPEN the file by default. When file > >>> extensions are hidden, people are more likely to confuse the default > >>> program and the format of the file. > >>> > >>> James, all I can recommend is to make sure file extensions are turned > >>> ON in Windows :-/ > >>> > >>> - Naomi > >>> > >>> >Hello, Everyone on our Forum, regarding Anthony's Post. Thanks, > >>> > Dan, for trying to answer his problem, but I'm not sure the > >>> > WORD/OOo interchangeability problems are being addressed. Does > >>> > anyone see the similarities to my problem/post a couple days ago? > >>> > ... i.e. the conversion factors from OOo to Word (PDF, .SXW, .DOC, > >>> > WordPad, etc.) ... or am I totally off base? I'm quite fine if > >>> > anyone tells me I'm missing the point here (at least that would > >>> > help me move on to other possible solutions). > >>> > > >>> >I appreciated the posts attempting to resolve my particular problem > >>> > in this regard, but they didn't help me get a solution ... either > >>> > because I'm dumb (to which I readily admit without shame), or > >>> > there's something wrong with OOo 2 Beta. I didn't have these > >>> > problems with 1.1.4. > >>> > > >>> >Since I couldn't resolve the problem in OOo 2 (1.9 beta), today I > >>> > tried to re-install the stable version 1.1.4. to see if I'm totally > >>> > wacko about this problem. Well, that didn't work either ... It's > >>> > been so long since I installed OOo at all, I'm having problems even > >>> > trying to install the 1.1.4 too ... Gaw! I can't imagine what the > >>> > Newbies are going through. > >>> > > >>> >So, if there are any "Experts" on OOo out there, please continue to > >>> > try helping us out with this Microsoft Word versus Open Office > >>> > conversion. I thought that's what this whole project is about. > >>> > > >>> >Thanks. > >>> > >> I just read the OP's email. The pertinent part is this: > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> The OOo docs have the default OOo icon > >> The Word docs also have the OOo icon > >> > >> I followed the M$ WinXP Help instructions to change the workd docs icon, > >> but > >> the property these instructions referred to was not present in the > >> dialog > >> box. I would like *.doc documents to be ditinguished from true OOo > >> *.sxw > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> It has nothing to do with conversions between MS Office and OOo. It > >> only had to do with icons. That is why I suggested using WordPad as the > >> documents by having a different icon. It would mean that the *.doc files > >> could only be opened by OOo using File > Open or Control+O. But at > >> least there would be no confusion as to which file had which format. > >> I would also like James Elliot to respond to what has been written. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/39 - Release Date: 4/07/2005 > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
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