On Wednesday 07 September 2005 07:33, you wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 14:28 +0200, Johannes D.H. Beekhuizen wrote:
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> > Hi,
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> > Today, Sep 7, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to...:
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> > The big thing that keeps me worried now is why an existing user does
> > not get OO in his KDE menu but a new user does. I could of course
> > delete my KDE settings and start again, but don't really feel like
> > that... I'm also wondering if it might be because I normally work in
> > text mode and only start X on demand.
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> Hmm, I think I have experienced something similar. From time to time
> when installing 1.9mxx before m122 I had to logout and log back in to
> get the menus straightened. This is FC[34] but now seems to survive
> uninstalls and installs. Have you tried restarting your session?

Hello,
That reminds me of my experiment with the openoffice.org-redhat-menus RPM the 
other day.  For clarity, I will sumarize in the form of a numerical list:
1. "Before" I installed 1.9.127, I installed 
"openoffice.org-redhat-menus-1.9.127-1.noarch.rpm"  The result?  I had about 
six items stuck in the Office subdirectory of my KDE start menu.  The only 
problem was that none of them had any icons.  I opened up the KDE start menu 
in  the KDE menu editor, there were no icons there either.  If icons don't 
pop up right away, usually they are visible in kmenuedit, and all I have to 
do is click the save icon, and then when I check the menu, they appear.  This 
time they never appeared.  I even logged out and logged back in, and the 
icons never appeared.  Just the original openoffice.org menu choices, with no 
icons.
2. I edited the *.desktop files, just like I do for my Manual Integration 
technique, and I got the icons back right away.
3. I then installed 1.9.127.  The result?  All of the openoffice.org menu 
items dissappeared from the Office subdirectory I referred to earlier.  Icons 
dissappeared as well.
4. Did a fresh download of 1.9.127.  Uninstalled 
"openoffice.org-redhat-menus-1.9.127-1.noarch.rpm" as well as all of the 
1.9.127 RPM's that I had installed.  Now is not the time to go into detail 
about why I know I got all of them uninstalled, but I did.  I will say it was 
a mixture of rpm -qa, grep, kedit and rpm -3
I then reinstalled the 1.9.127 RPMS, and I installed the 
"openoffice.org-redhat-menus-1.9.127-1.noarch.rpm" at the same time.

This is not a huge deal to me, since I have another way to get OpenOffice 
integrated into my start menu.  The only thing that I can think might have 
anything to do with any of this is that although I install OpenOffice by the 
RPM's that Pavel Janik creates, my KDE is not located in a default path.  I 
export to "/usr/local/kde-svn" in my ~/.bash_profile.  With that being the 
case, I would think the the openoffice.org-redhat-menus RPM wouldn't work at 
all, as opposed to how it worked for me: for a short time, and then 
dissappeared.  Oh yeah, when the menu items originally dissappeared, I did 
rpm -qa on openoffice.org-redhat-menus and it was still installed.

If you think this is a real issue, let me know, and I will file an issue on 
it.  But please let me know what component and subcomponent to file it under.  
I always get confused by that :)

Steven P. Ulrick

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