On Monday 21 November 2005 10:29 am, Robin Laing wrote:
> Tim Wescott wrote:
> > CPHennessy wrote:
> >> On Fri November 18 2005 03:08, Craig Herman wrote:
> >>> The word f**k and the expression "f**k up" are in the dictionary and
> >>> thesaurus.  Is it possible to remove these?  I have tried, but I have
> >>> been unsuccessful.  I would like to use these at my school, but with
> >>> these words in the dictionary, I don't think that will be possible.
> >>
> >> Look for a file like :
> >> <openoffice.org 2.0 directory>/share/dict/ooo/en_US.dic
> >>
> >> Maybe it would be a selling point for OOo in schools to censor words
> >> from it's dictionary :)
> >
> > Dic?  DIC?!?  Do you know what the spell checker suggests I replace this
> > with?
> >
> > Oddly enough when I checked the thesaurus I did not get any hits on the
> > expected genitive organ, nor did a thesaurus search on said genitive
> > organ come up with "dick".  If f**k (which I cannot bring myself to
> > spell out in a public newsgroup, even though I may say it from time to
> > time) is in there, whyinhell isn't "dick"?
> >
> > Craig, I'm with you in as much as you feel such words need to be
> > deleted.  I would mention that if the children in question are high
> > school age (US, 14 and up) or higher they already are at least as
> > familiar with them as you are.  At that age they should be learning how
> > to refrain from using them rather than be protected from ever hearing
> > them.  If it's a grade school (US, 11 and down) delete it.  I teeter on
> > the edge for middle schoolers; either decision contains right and wrong
> > in equal measure for kids that age.
>
> Once being a young boy (oh so many years ago) the shock of using f**k
> around the house didn't work as my mother would use it to.  Working
> around the military I found that it was used all the time.  No shock
> value, just there.
>
> My kids hear it when I hit my finger with the hammer or rip my knuckle
> open when a wrench slips but I also explain to them that it is a word
> that isn't proper to use.
>
> If I censor my OOo dictionary and my StarDictionary, it still leaves
> the hardcopy dictionaries to censor.
>
> I agree that it is a sensitive subject for many but if the shock value
> is removed, then the work isn't as bad as many make it out to be.
>
> Listen to George Carlin's "Seven words you cannot say on television"
> and it puts things into perspective.
>
> At least it was mentioned how to remove the words if you wish.  I do
> agree that a "Censored" version of the dictionary could be handy for
> schools and could be used for promotional interest.
>
> I for one would not like a dictionary that didn't include f**k in it
> as I would wonder what else has been censored and in fact, I have
> actually made an effort since the 1970's to ensure that any dictionary
> I purchase has it in.

There is NO Reason for it being there.  NONE!  It must be removed or 
OpenOffice.org will become boycotted on many levels, Schools, religious 
organizations, and Governments, as well as possibly liable if/when someone 
with enough money decides that it falls under the rule of contributing to the 
delinquency of a minor.  There is no reason for it, or any other profane 
word, and "removing the shock value" is an unacceptable "work around".

Every SMTP Spam filter I know of filters these words, why on earth would any 
self respecting Word Processor maker put these in a Thesaurus?

-- 

See Ya'
Howard Coles Jr.
John 3:16!

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