On or about 11/23/2005 3:56 PM, Howard Coles Jr. penned the following:
> On Monday 21 November 2005 10:29 am, Robin Laing wrote:
>> Tim Wescott wrote:
>> > CPHennessy wrote:
>> >> On Fri November 18 2005 03:08, Craig Herman wrote:
>> >>> The word f**k and the expression "f**k up" are in the dictionary and
>> >>> thesaurus.  Is it possible to remove these?  I have tried, but I have
>> >>> been unsuccessful.  I would like to use these at my school, but with
>> >>> these words in the dictionary, I don't think that will be possible.
>> >>
>> >> Look for a file like :
>> >> <openoffice.org 2.0 directory>/share/dict/ooo/en_US.dic
>> >>
>> >> Maybe it would be a selling point for OOo in schools to censor words
>> >> from it's dictionary :)
>> >
>> > Dic?  DIC?!?  Do you know what the spell checker suggests I replace this
>> > with?
>> >
>> > Oddly enough when I checked the thesaurus I did not get any hits on the
>> > expected genitive organ, nor did a thesaurus search on said genitive
>> > organ come up with "dick".  If f**k (which I cannot bring myself to
>> > spell out in a public newsgroup, even though I may say it from time to
>> > time) is in there, whyinhell isn't "dick"?
>> >
>> > Craig, I'm with you in as much as you feel such words need to be
>> > deleted.  I would mention that if the children in question are high
>> > school age (US, 14 and up) or higher they already are at least as
>> > familiar with them as you are.  At that age they should be learning how
>> > to refrain from using them rather than be protected from ever hearing
>> > them.  If it's a grade school (US, 11 and down) delete it.  I teeter on
>> > the edge for middle schoolers; either decision contains right and wrong
>> > in equal measure for kids that age.
>>
>> Once being a young boy (oh so many years ago) the shock of using f**k
>> around the house didn't work as my mother would use it to.  Working
>> around the military I found that it was used all the time.  No shock
>> value, just there.
>>
>> My kids hear it when I hit my finger with the hammer or rip my knuckle
>> open when a wrench slips but I also explain to them that it is a word
>> that isn't proper to use.
>>
>> If I censor my OOo dictionary and my StarDictionary, it still leaves
>> the hardcopy dictionaries to censor.
>>
>> I agree that it is a sensitive subject for many but if the shock value
>> is removed, then the work isn't as bad as many make it out to be.
>>
>> Listen to George Carlin's "Seven words you cannot say on television"
>> and it puts things into perspective.
>>
>> At least it was mentioned how to remove the words if you wish.  I do
>> agree that a "Censored" version of the dictionary could be handy for
>> schools and could be used for promotional interest.
>>
>> I for one would not like a dictionary that didn't include f**k in it
>> as I would wonder what else has been censored and in fact, I have
>> actually made an effort since the 1970's to ensure that any dictionary
>> I purchase has it in.
> 
> There is NO Reason for it being there.  NONE!  It must be removed or 
> OpenOffice.org will become boycotted on many levels, Schools, religious 
> organizations, and Governments, as well as possibly liable if/when someone 
> with enough money decides that it falls under the rule of contributing to the 
> delinquency of a minor.  There is no reason for it, or any other profane 
> word, and "removing the shock value" is an unacceptable "work around".
> 
> Every SMTP Spam filter I know of filters these words, why on earth would any 
> self respecting Word Processor maker put these in a Thesaurus?
> 

By that reasoning - 99.9% of dictionarys should also be removed or
boycotted.  Good grief!  And in this day and age let me ask - "What
shock value?"  The shock value wore off when I was a kid back in the 1940s.


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