In the same spirit, I hope you won't take offense as I dissect your
arguments. To answer your question, I'm not a manager or an executive.
I'm a developer in a small (150 people in 5 cities) firm and a
consultant to a slightly larger firm who gets called on to make
assessments of tool purchases on a semi-regular basis. I've also been an
OSS developer in the past and will probably be one again in the future.

> Fact 1:  you WILL spend the same amount in "lost productivity" because
of 
> "training" if you are upgrading to a new version of MS Office,
especially if 
> they have changed enough around to confuse folks.  While the amount
may be 
> some bit smaller, you still have an amount, and it needs to be
factored in.  
> I think what you'll find is that training someone to use OOo doesn't
cost all 
> that much more than training them to use MSO 12.

Here's my assessment of what needs retraining in MSO-12: new UI and
contextual menus. To move to OOo, we would have to train on all the
higher-end bits that differ in form from MSO-11--mail merge, redlining,
pivot tables, macros...and the list goes on. Speaking of macros, we'd
have to redo every macro we currently support on MSO-11 and completely
rework some of our COM and .NET-based components that are accessed by
them.

Even if we moved to OOo, we'd still be stuck with Outlook. Two
deal-killers for potential Outlook replacements are the inability to
import a PST file with any degree of regularity and the inability of
Google toolbar or Lookout to navigate other e-mail clients. If we don't
get rid of Outlook, the difference in price point for all of MSO-12 is a
lot less attractive.

> Fact 2:  This message demonstrates (by way of example, not that the
post is 
> suffering from this) the complete lack of long term thinking that
screws up 
> major businesses today.

And this "fact" demonstrates the lack of business acumen that goes into
a lot of OOo evangelism. The TCO projections I do have a two-year
timeline, meaning that we expect to have to do them all over again every
two years when MS comes out with a new version of Office. But, moving to
a less-popular product has a cost over time that does not approach zero.
Trying to find employees who are power users of even products like Lotus
1-2-3 is a thankless task. With OOo, it would be cheaper to hire
somebody who knew nothing and train them than to look for people who
already know the tool. Hiring is expensive.

Oh, and forget about using temps. You want to bring somebody in for a
day of redlining to speed up a process? Not if they're going  to take an
hour of their time and an hour of your time to learn it.

> Fact 3:  This message also demonstrates (again, by way of example) the
lack of 
> "Big Picture" thinking that execs are always trying to make us peons
think 
> they're doing.  Why?  Because it completely lacks the foresight to
realize 
> that once you keep on this upgrade path with MSO you lose access to
old docs 
> unless you spend big $$$$ and Time manually keeping them up to date in
doc 
> format.

My copy of MS Word opens files from every version of Word since DOS,
including Mac formats. What version are you using that doesn't open them
and convert them when you save? In fact, it opens pretty much everything
but OOo files.

> Fact 4:  "Lost Productivity" due to switching is nearly a myth,
because it 
> assumes those workers would have actually been doing something
productive 
> during the times you were training them, or that they were all that
affective 
> in working with MSO software to begin with.  :-D  This is the lighter
side of 
> things.  Seriously, its not really "lost" productivity anyway.  Yes
its true, 
> while they are in training they are not productive at all, but its an 
> investment, not a clear loss!!!!  If by spending 20,000 dollars
training a 
> group of people to use a free Software package I save 100,000+ dollars
over 
> the next 4 years, I have more than recuperated my losses.  True OOo
will have 
> its patches, and upgrades, just like MSO, but think about this, when
the next 
> version of OOo comes out how much will it cost to upgrade, will you be
forced 
> to upgrade, and will you lose access to older docs and have to spend
time 
> converting them?

If I kept the same employees and didn't ever upgrade OOo, the cost might
approach zero. Otherwise, having a less popular tool on the desk adds to
my hiring costs and training costs.

> Fact 5:  "TCO" is nebulous at best, and can be skewed in any direction
the 
> person putting the figures together wants it to go, and in my opinion
nearly 
> impossible to nail down to any exact figure.

TCO is a very effective analytical tool, provided you apply the same
rules to both sides. It's potentially nebulous, but still
quantifiable--a characteristic of the majority of planning data.

> Fact 6:  "We need to be able to exchange documents with other
companies" is a 
> flimsy excuse, and never a reason.  Its the last ditch effort of a
lost cause 
> that makes everyone go "uh, we can't make our suppliers switch."
Listen, OOo 
> does a very decent job opening and saving docs in MS format.  NO, not 
> perfect, but very good.  Not only that, if I'm paying company A good
money to 
> do business with me, asking them to download a free Suite to interact
with me 
> isn't asking much.

The conversion is fine except when it isn't. OOo can be set up to always
export to Office format, but that can lead to problems with internal
documents. Not setting it to default causes a problem every time someone
forgets and sends an OOo format file. (I've got a client who, every time
he wants to send me a new picture for his website, sends it to me in PDF
form and simply refuses to understand how to open a ZIP file.)

As for telling your suppliers to suck it up, install the software, and
swallow the cost of retraining their employees to use the new tool in
order to do business with you, this can work if you're a big enough
company. But, sometimes, you're the supplier and your customers may be
in a position to tell you to get stuffed.

--Jekke

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