On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 19:18 -0400, Matt Needles wrote: > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > >On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 15:40 -0400, Matt Needles wrote: > > > > > >>On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 12:03 -0400, Pete Holsberg wrote: > >> > >> > >>>John W. Kennedy typed the following on 7/2/2006 11:22 AM: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Pete Holsberg wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>G. Roderick Singleton typed the following on 7/2/2006 7:49 AM: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 05:35 -0400, Lars D. Noodén wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>I looked at the install instructions and the OOo FAQ and see no > >>>>>>>explicit description of when one should install the binary including > >>>>>>>JRE and when one should install the binary without JRE. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>When should one choose the one over the other? In a nutshell, what's > >>>>>>>the difference? (and can we get it put in the FAQ?) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>See http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/index.html . In > >>>>>>particular > >>>>>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/021.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>"For example, with 1.1 you will not be able to use the XSLT > >>>>>functionality, JDBC, applets, form generators, and Java Application > >>>>>Programming Interfaces (APIs) for 3rd party modules, if no Java is > >>>>>installed." > >>>>> > >>>>>For example? Not exactly definitive! > >>>>> > >>>>>What is XSLT functionality? > >>>>>JBDC? > >>>>>Which applets? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/022.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>"You can download Java from http://www.java.com or http://java.sun.com."; > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/023.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>"Which version of Java do I need?" > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/024.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>Not at all applicable. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/025.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>"Can I install Java after I install OpenOffice.org?" > >>>>> > >>>>>There has to be a simple answer to the question, "Do I need to download > >>>>>JRE for OOo?" > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>There is no real simple answer, because the situation isn't simple. > >>>> > >>>>The pragmatic simple answer is, "If you don't have, or know whether you > >>>>have, a JRE, get the version that contains one." > >>>> > >>>>For some people, that will the /wrong/ answer, but it will be "mostly > >>>>harmless". > >>>> > >>>> > >>>So why not it a no-brainer and offer only the "with JRE" version? > >>>I know -- because of the people with dial-up. Maybe they should > >>>have a footnote or something that directs them to a CD. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I have a better (?) suggestion: why not do what M$ does? Leave it out, > >>but when the user tries to use a part of the app that needs it, start > >>the process of downloading and installing the JRE. That will make OOo as > >>small as possible for the initial download, with the possibility of > >>adding the missing functionality easily later on. > >> > >> > >> > > > >Not a bad idea. What is the number of the RFE so I can add my vote. > > > > > It's at http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=66978. > A possible related issue at > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=21536 > Added two to 66978 -- G. Roderick Singleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PATH tech
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