mike scott wrote:
On 11 Sep 2006 at 0:31, Ross Johnson wrote:
...
with a ToC. Into my test document: I insert a manual page break,
specifying 'default' style, and a weird page number. Then I immediately
insert a table of contents. If I right-click inside the ToC, I can try
"edit para style" -- but the "Breaks" check box is clear, even though
there's a break. Also the main menu Format list has most options
greyed out (including paragraph).
Yes, I see this now too, but I've found the explanation. The default
setting for inserted indexes is "Protected against manual changes". If
you right-click in the TOC and go to Edit Index/Table (Index/Table tab),
you can uncheck this attribute. Then, when you go to Format Paragraph
(Text Flow tab) for the first paragraph on the page (say, the TOC "Table
of Contents" heading paragraph), you should be able to uncheck the Break
- Insert box to remove the manual break, etc.
Hmmm. I'm still not clear what's happening here.
I've cleared the 'protected' setting, and so can make any old changes
to the ToC. However, the 'Insert' checkbox under 'breaks' is /clear/
anyway - even though the ToC immediately follows the break. That said,
having cleared the 'protected' setting, I can now move the cursor to
the start of the table and simply hit bckspc - which seems to clear the
break. That's OK, but if I then /set/ the protect bit again to prevent
accidents, the title "Table of Contents" now appears twice, once
protected, once not. I guess I can live with that, but it looks like a
minor bug.
I don't think you've told us which OOo version you're using. I don't get
this, but maybe there's something else in your document that is
affecting things.
...
You can always see the current page number in the status bar.
Which isn't right, btw. My present test document - two pages of
landscape A5 with a manual break to 'play with' has a 'page number'
field in each page within the half-dozen or so lines. Those fields
show, correctly, 1 and 5. The status bar shows either '1/3' or 'Page 5
3/3', depending on which of the two pages I'm in. If I delete the
...
Hmm. I'll have to try this to see what it's about.
I've left a copy at
http://www.scottsonline.org.uk/private/junk-numbering.odt
There does appear to be a bug here. But mostly, what you see is correct
according to what is in the document. The bug IMO is at the end of the
following explanation.
In the document from your web page:
The last para on the first page has a Break Insert After setting, while
the first para on the second page has a Break Insert Before setting. The
two breaks are conspiring to add a blank page between the two that you
see in edit mode. You can see the blank page in the print preview.
Writer's Status bar shows Page numbering as:-
"Page n p/q"
or just
"Page p/q"
if n = p, where n is the document page number and p/q is the physical
page p of q physical pages.
So what you see is correct. The first page is page number 1 and is
physical page 1 of 3, so you see "Page 1/3". The next page is page
number 7, but is physical page 3 of 3, so you see "Page 7 3/3". Writer
doesn't display the empty blank page in edit mode, probably because it
has no content at all.
(When you see what appears to be a blank page in a document, it actually
contains an empty paragraph. Your blank page - page 2 - doesn't contain
an empty paragraph because of the break after para on page 1 and the
break before para on page 3.)
When you place the cursor at the start of the first para on your second
page and Backspace, you remove the Break Before of that paragraph, and
effectively join that para to the last para on your first page. It's
Break After setting now kicks in at the end of that extended para, so
that, what was the second para on your second page is now the first para
on your second page.
This is all making sense, Backspace does the right thing, but (here's
the bug I think) ...
If you undo all of that to start over but now place the cursor at the
end of the last para on your first page, and press Delete - then once
again the first para of your second page is joined to the cursor para.
I.e. this action appears to remove the Break Before setting of the
following para. This would be ok if there was no Break After in the
cursor para. However, the page number of your second page should then be
"Page 2/2". That is one bug, but there is another bug too IMO.
In the above (Delete) operation, the Break After setting should be
removed from the cursor para rather than the Break Before of the
following para. This should leave the Break Before para intact at the
top of your second page, but it should remove the blank page (that you
only see in print preview) and show your second page number as "Page 7 2/2".
Ross
I've had some trouble making this happen again when starting from
scratch.
Oh, and thanks for the advice!
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