Since this conversation has nothing to do with the user-part of openoffice anymore I would like to suggest that you fight this dispute somewhere else but not on this mailinglist.
Arnold Huzen > > van: "Harold Fuchs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > datum: 2006/09/19 Tue PM 12:09:18 CEST > aan: <[email protected]> > onderwerp: Re: [users] A warning before posting > > > > On Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:05 AM [GMT+1=CET], Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Replies inserted. > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Okay mister EXPERT prove that what I wrote is not factual or > >> accurate! People like you usually check out hazards before they > >> become victims, what is your excuse? > > > > 1. Your preposterous claim that: > > > >>> If you have a computer and connect to the outside world you just > > gave up your privacy with regard to what you do while connected > > to the outside world. << > > > > Now I've spent a lot of time on the internet and this is the first > > I've heard of that rule. Who made it? M$? Or one of the other > > corporations that want to own the net? Or maybe a cabal of all the > > corporations? > > The fact that you haven't heard of this before simply indicates that you > don't read newpapers, journals, periodicals, or books and that you don't > watch television or listen to the radio or go to the cinema. It is basically > impossible to live in the late 20th / early 21st centuries without coming > into contact with the fact that the internet and the web (which, by the way, > are not the same) compromise privacy to a very great extent. > > > > > Maybe it was the CIA? > > > > "People like" me? Why am I bothering to answer someone who thinks > > ranting is reasoning? > > > > 2. The extremely extravagant claim that: > > > >>> Every thing you do on your computer > > through any outside connection is recorded and is basically > > publically accessable to any one. << > > > > Do the banks know that? Do the corporate executives know it? > > Yes !!! The banks know it. Corporate executives know it. 14 year old children > know it. And many of them can exploit it. > > > > > So you know, or are able to discover, everything I've ever done on the > > internet? > > > > 3. The sweeping claim: > > > >>> Having the header information > > of an e-mail is no big deal. << > > > > I wouldn't raise the issue if there was nothing in the public > > information that I don't want publicised. > > > > My email provider is looking into it. > > If your e-mail provider intends to run a standard e-mail system then there is > nothing it can do about it. That's the way the internet e-mail system is > designed and has been since day one. Go and read the RFCs > > > > > It would serve OpenOffice right if it found itself on the receiving > > end of litigation for breach of privacy, unauthorised publication and > > non-disclosure of terms. And any other available cause of action. > > > > 4. This weird statement: > > > >>> If you do not want people to know > > who you are or what you are doing or where you are going with > > your computer don't connect to the outside world. << > > > > Now you're going to tell me that you know who I am, what I'm doing and > > where I'm going. > > > > And you've got the same information at your fingertips for everyone > > else who has ever been so foolish as to "connect to the outside > > world"? > > > >> Just for your benefit I will post the header from the e-mail that > >> you sent your latest reply. you can find it at the bottom of > >> this post. Any time you send any communication to any one all > >> the information about where that file was is in the e-mail > >> header. Every computer that was used to send that e-mail to the > >> destination has the information. < snip > > > > > What on earth does that have to do with OpenOffice > > (a) publishing that stuff on the web and > > (b) neglecting to warn anyone beforehand that it intended taking that > > extremely unusual, unnecessary and inconsiderate action? > > > > I'm not complaining about recipients of my emails knowing whatever > > they can find out from my emails. > > > > I'm complaining about one of them (supposedly a community > > organisation) telling the whole world. > > > >> I know a lot more about this sort of thing than you think I do. > >> The government where you and I live has the ability to monitor > >> every thing you and I do and they use it. > > > > Yes. Well, paranoia's all that keeps me going as well. > > > > To make the point again. I'm not complaining about the government > > knowing anything. I'm not complaining about recipients of my emails > > knowing anything. I'm not complaining about OpenOffice knowing > > anything. > > > > I'm pointing out (that's all) that OpenOffice, without a word of > > warning, is publishing that information on the web and doing so > > unnecessarily and for the possible benefit only of those who would > > misuse the information. > > > > It's interesting to me (and that's all) that anyone can be so > > benighted as to believe that is an appropriate way for a community > > organisation to behave. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
