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On Sep 20, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Terence W C Warby wrote:

> I would have thought that working in a small business would have
> made it easier to adopt alternatives to M$ software. I work in a
> business with about 17 full time personnel. Up to two years ago we
> had to work with a motley collection of PC's running on Win 95, 98
> and Me, using various versions of M$ Office. When our Director
> decided to update our network and buy new machines he asked me to
> manage the job. Although I didn't manage to eliminate M$ software
> entirely, we are running on Win XP, there is no M$ office software
> on any of our PC's. The transition to OpenOffice.org was quick,
> painless and very cost effective. All I had to do was show that OOo
> could do the jobs we wanted done, that it could read any M$
> documents that we had already produced and could produce M$ format
> documents if required by a client. Job done - No problem.
>
> Terry W
>
> Ross Bernheim wrote:
>> Derek,
>>
>> In small businesses there are as many if not more impediments to
>> adopting  alternatives such as Open Office. I work in a small
>> company.
>> When I started, there were two of us, the owner and myself.
>>
>> His is a MS Windows, MS Office, Publisher, etc. user.  I am
>> primarily a Mac
>> user and to some extent Linux user. The owner got an IBM laptop
>> with XP
>> Home. He got an IBM desktop with XP Home for the part time
>> receptionist/
>> office person. I used an old Mac from home initially with Word
>> Perfect for
>> the Mac.
>>
>> When I outgrew the old Mac, I got an eMac for work as it was the
>> only one
>> that would fit under the riser for the workbench where it was to
>> be located
>> and it was the least expensive. Boss offered to get MS Office for
>> it and I
>> said no. I put Open Office on it and have been very happy with it.
>>
>> As we expanded and added a full time office person and another
>> production
>> person, MS continued to dominate. I did get the office person and
>> other
>> production person to put OOo on their machines and they use it
>> some of
>> the time. Particularly when MS Word won't print and OOo does.
>>
>> Boss still won't deal with other than MS Office.
>>
>> On the back end, I did get him to go for a Samba server running on
>> Linux.
>> Took an old $30 PII 266 machine and added a 160GB drive and Debian
>> Linux for an inexpensive and reliable file server.
>>
>> We have added 2 machines that are MS Windows XP based because we
>> need to run software that only works under Windows. These have been
>> EDA software and PLM software. The EDA machine also has Office on it
>> since that is what the people who use it are used to. The PLM
>> server is
>> running on a machine that is in my area and also runs an instance
>> of the
>> PLM client software. I have OOo on it instead of Office. So far
>> the only problem
>> is that the PLM software expects MS Office so I cannot import
>> Excel files
>> into the PLM database without it. It means that I have to convert
>> the file to
>> a text file and import that way. A minor annoyance but not a
>> showstopper
>> as I do not need to import too many files that way.
>>
>> The interesting thing is that the office admin person tried OOo at
>> home and
>> found that it was easier to just use MS Word to trade files with
>> the people
>> in college classes she is taking. The production person uses OOo
>> and not
>> MS Word at home.
>>
>> It will be a long hard ongoing effort to unseat MS Windows or any
>> of the MS
>> Office components from their dominant position. I have a number of
>> computers
>> at home and all have OOo not MS Office on them. So I am a 'success
>> story' but
>> many others are not there yet.
>>
>> Certainly small businesses are a good place to put forth the
>> effort to make them
>> aware of the advantages of OOo. Expecting a high percentage of
>> them to either
>> use or switch to OOo is unrealistic at this point. Working towards
>> having a
>> greater awareness of OOo and higher adoption rates is very realistic.
>>
>>
>> Ross Bernheim
>>
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2006, at 17:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  I think some of the greatest opportunities for software
>>> alternatives like Open Office and Linux exist in small business,
>>> where the entrepreneurial spirits are highest and budgets are
>>> lowest. Workers there are more likely to make an extra effort to
>>> learn new things and challenge the status quo for their own sakes.
>>>
>>>  Derek Wilson
>>
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