On Monday, September 25, 2006 9:02 AM [GMT+1=CET], mike scott <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 23 Sep 2006 at 17:16, James McKenzie wrote:
> ...
>>> Note 1 : So how do I know if someone is not subscribed ?
>>> That is easy :
<snip>
>>> there is a field in every email on this list called
>>> "Delivered-to". For subscribed users it will show your email
>>> address. For unsubscribed users, there will be two "Delievered-to"
>>> fields, the one as described above, and a second one with the value
>>> "moderator". Any email delivered to the moderator and then to the
>>> list, means that the email was from an unsubscribed user and
>>> therefore you should try to CC: that user.
<snip>

For *un*subscribed users you get:
Delivered-To: mailing list [email protected]
Delivered-To: moderator for [email protected]

For subscribed users you get *only* the first of those. AFAIK you never get 
"your email address".

Also, in Outlook Express (and possibly other mail readers too), there is no way 
to get the software to show the Delivered-To: header(s)*automatically*. You can 
view them but it requires several keystokes and is therefore easy to forget. 
No, you can't filter on them either.

Messages from unsubscribed users *sometimes* have "[moderated]" in the subject 
but this is not 100% reliable. I wonder if the moderator's software has some 
option that could be invoked to make it 100% reliable ... Mr/Ms Moderator - are 
you listening? (probably not, as I'm subscribed :-( )

Harold Fuchs
London, England

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