Since you're not having much luck here, why not try the Writer forum at www.oooforum.org
Barbara Duprey wrote: > > Thanks so much for the pointer, Terry! I'll check into the Extended PDF > macro, and there were some other interesting ones on that list, too. > > I have no trouble with the Navigator as long as I'm staying in the same > file, just toggling the view to show headings works fine. But I'd still > love > to know how I'm supposed to get the cross-file Navigator reliably, and I'm > still concerned about there being ANY way for an apparent edit to get lost > with no indication a problem has occurred. The key appears to be making > sure > that the full file name shows in the subdoc title bar, but why it's > sometimes there and sometimes not has me stumped. I'm sure it's something > I > did to myself somehow by following an unusual procedure, but at this point > I > can't remember exactly what I did. Too much water under the bridge -- the > document is 112 pages long now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TerryJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:48 AM > Subject: Re: [users] When is a Writer Save NOT a Save? >> >> <snip> >> >> Andrew Pitonyak's macro document (pdf version) has hyperlinks in the TOC. >> IIRC, he uses extended pdf to convert the Writer version to pdf. Here is >> a link: http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php#102785 >> >> <snip> >> >> Barbara Duprey wrote: >>> >>> Didn't realize I was scaring people -- sorry! Anyway, I can't find >>> anywhere >>> in the referenced document the info about the kind of Navigator display >>> I >>> was (sometimes) using, where the full structure of the whole document >>> (all headings in the master and all subdocuments) is shown. I really >>> have no >>> idea how this Navigator style is achieved, but it's what I need to be >>> able to >>> drag and create hyperlinks in the master from separate subdocs. >>> Sometimes >>> it's there, sometimes all I can see is a one-liner for each subdoc that >>> lets me open it, and I can't find the magic incantation that produces >>> the full >>> heading structure. >>> >>> I'm giving up on the master/subdoc thing altogether and flattening the >>> structure. I know I can get the document I need that way, and it's a lot >>> less wear and tear on my nerves! >>> >>> Don't get me wrong here, basically I love OOo. The tie-in with PDF is >>> particularly nice, like being able to create tagged PDFs so that my >>> hyperlinks work in the viewed document. I do wish there were at least an >>> option for the TOC to use hyperlinks, I didn't see any way so I'm >>> creating >>> my own. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "TerryJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:15 PM >>> Subject: Re: [users] When is a Writer Save NOT a Save? >>> >>>> It seems everyone is too scared to reply. I hardly use Writer but I >>>> created a master document and subdocuments using 1.1.14 about 19 months >>>> ago >>>> without a problem. >>>> >>>> The problems may be new. One thing I can tell you is that there is a >>>> specific Help document - described as "Ch13 - Working with Master >>>> Documents" on this page: >>>> http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/index.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Barbara Duprey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I could add a few more chapters to the book I wrote in my earlier >>>>> message, >>>>> but at the moment I'm tired of writing (and rewriting, and...). >>>>> >>>>> The response to my original question appears to be "... when you >>>>> appear >>>>> to be editing a subdocument from within the context of a master >>>>> document." >>>>> From the symptoms I've seen, the only way for your edits to survive >>>>> this >>>>> process unscathed is for you to avoid doing a Save when the title bar >>>>> is >>>>> showing the subdocument without displaying the actual file name (with >>>>> the .odt >>>>> extension). Instead, do a Save As that identifies the subdocument file >>>>> itself. Otherwise, the changes seem to vanish into limbo. After >>>>> following the other discussions here about not cleaning out temp files >>>>> while a >>>>> document is open for editing, I tried searching my whole hard disk for >>>>> files containing some identifiable text, but had no luck at all. >>>>> >>>>> In my opinion, this is a VERYdangerous situation. It certainly caused >>>>> me a lot of grief and rework, and I'd hate to see this happen to >>>>> anybody >>>>> else. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Barbara Duprey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Open Office" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:11 PM >>>>> Subject: [users] Fw: When is a Writer Save NOT a Save? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Oops - forgot to mention I'm using version 2.0.4 on a WinXP system. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Barbara Duprey >>>>> To: Open Office >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:31 PM >>>>> Subject: When is a Writer Save NOT a Save? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> OK, I'm officially going crazy now. I constructed a document (master >>>>> and four subdocs), and everything was going great. I typically left >>>>> the >>>>> master open with all the components showing their headings, and >>>>> editable, >>>>> saving frequently. Sometimes I'd close it, and come back later (like >>>>> after >>>>> software installs). When I opened it again, and allowed the links to >>>>> update, >>>>> everything would be fine. >>>>> >>>>> When the document was in near-final shape (let's call this point A), I >>>>> made a bunch of organizational changes (inserting subheads, etc., in >>>>> some of >>>>> the subdocs) and reset the TOC. Everything was still fine (point B). >>>>> Hadn't >>>>> closed the file. >>>>> >>>>> Then I added a new section (several pages) and made a few more minor >>>>> changes. This time, I thought I'd make use of the versioning >>>>> capability, so I saved the version (point C), and closed the file. >>>>> >>>>> Ever since then, it seems that no matter what I do all I can retrieve >>>>> is the document at point A, but with the TOC of point B. This is also >>>>> what I >>>>> get when I open version C. Not only did I lose a lot of work, but >>>>> changes I >>>>> make now have NO EFFECT. Well, copying the whole document into a new >>>>> document with a different name (saved as odt), adding a subhead, >>>>> closing, and >>>>> reopening without the link update, the change is still there, and the >>>>> heading shows and works in the Navigator. But as soon as I open with >>>>> link update (which is apparently necessary in a master/subdoc to see >>>>> the >>>>> whole structure in Navigator), I'm back to the point A/B hybrid. I >>>>> tried >>>>> various saves, from the original and the copy, and various >>>>> combinations of >>>>> opening from recent files, closing files, closing Writer, opening from >>>>> disk. >>>>> Always get A/B. >>>>> >>>>> How did I create this situation? How can I get out of it? >>>>> > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fw%3A-When-is-a-Writer-Save-NOT-a-Save--tf3043548.html#a8514608 Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
