----- Original Message ----- From: "TerryJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [users] When is a Writer Save NOT a Save?
Since you're not having much luck here, why not try the Writer forum at www.oooforum.org Barbara Duprey wrote:Thanks so much for the pointer, Terry! I'll check into the Extended PDF macro, and there were some other interesting ones on that list, too. I have no trouble with the Navigator as long as I'm staying in the same file, just toggling the view to show headings works fine. But I'd still loveto know how I'm supposed to get the cross-file Navigator reliably, and I'm still concerned about there being ANY way for an apparent edit to get lostwith no indication a problem has occurred. The key appears to be making sure that the full file name shows in the subdoc title bar, but why it's sometimes there and sometimes not has me stumped. I'm sure it's something Idid to myself somehow by following an unusual procedure, but at this pointI can't remember exactly what I did. Too much water under the bridge -- the document is 112 pages long now.----- Original Message ----- From: "TerryJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [users] When is a Writer Save NOT a Save?<snip>Andrew Pitonyak's macro document (pdf version) has hyperlinks in the TOC. IIRC, he uses extended pdf to convert the Writer version to pdf. Here isa link: http://www.ooomacros.org/user.php#102785 <snip> Barbara Duprey wrote:Didn't realize I was scaring people -- sorry! Anyway, I can't find anywhere in the referenced document the info about the kind of Navigator display I was (sometimes) using, where the full structure of the whole document (all headings in the master and all subdocuments) is shown. I really have no idea how this Navigator style is achieved, but it's what I need to be able to drag and create hyperlinks in the master from separate subdocs. Sometimes it's there, sometimes all I can see is a one-liner for each subdoc that lets me open it, and I can't find the magic incantation that produces the full heading structure. I'm giving up on the master/subdoc thing altogether and flattening thestructure. I know I can get the document I need that way, and it's a lotless wear and tear on my nerves! Don't get me wrong here, basically I love OOo. The tie-in with PDF is particularly nice, like being able to create tagged PDFs so that myhyperlinks work in the viewed document. I do wish there were at least anoption for the TOC to use hyperlinks, I didn't see any way so I'm creating my own.----- Original Message ----- From: "TerryJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [users] When is a Writer Save NOT a Save?It seems everyone is too scared to reply. I hardly use Writer but Icreated a master document and subdocuments using 1.1.14 about 19 monthsago without a problem. The problems may be new. One thing I can tell you is that there is a specific Help document - described as "Ch13 - Working with Master Documents" on this page: http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/index.html Barbara Duprey wrote:I could add a few more chapters to the book I wrote in my earlier message, but at the moment I'm tired of writing (and rewriting, and...). The response to my original question appears to be "... when you appear to be editing a subdocument from within the context of a master document." From the symptoms I've seen, the only way for your edits to survive this process unscathed is for you to avoid doing a Save when the title bar is showing the subdocument without displaying the actual file name (with the .odtextension). Instead, do a Save As that identifies the subdocument fileitself. Otherwise, the changes seem to vanish into limbo. Afterfollowing the other discussions here about not cleaning out temp fileswhile adocument is open for editing, I tried searching my whole hard disk forfiles containing some identifiable text, but had no luck at all. In my opinion, this is a VERYdangerous situation. It certainly caused me a lot of grief and rework, and I'd hate to see this happen to anybody else.----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Duprey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Open Office" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:11 PM Subject: [users] Fw: When is a Writer Save NOT a Save? Oops - forgot to mention I'm using version 2.0.4 on a WinXP system.----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara DupreyTo: Open Office Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: When is a Writer Save NOT a Save? OK, I'm officially going crazy now. I constructed a document (master and four subdocs), and everything was going great. I typically left the master open with all the components showing their headings, and editable, saving frequently. Sometimes I'd close it, and come back later (like after software installs). When I opened it again, and allowed the links to update, everything would be fine.When the document was in near-final shape (let's call this point A), Imade a bunch of organizational changes (inserting subheads, etc., in some of the subdocs) and reset the TOC. Everything was still fine (point B). Hadn't closed the file. Then I added a new section (several pages) and made a few more minor changes. This time, I thought I'd make use of the versioning capability, so I saved the version (point C), and closed the file. Ever since then, it seems that no matter what I do all I can retrieve is the document at point A, but with the TOC of point B. This is also what I get when I open version C. Not only did I lose a lot of work, but changes I make now have NO EFFECT. Well, copying the whole document into a new document with a different name (saved as odt), adding a subhead, closing, and reopening without the link update, the change is still there, and the heading shows and works in the Navigator. But as soon as I open with link update (which is apparently necessary in a master/subdoc to see the whole structure in Navigator), I'm back to the point A/B hybrid. I tried various saves, from the original and the copy, and various combinations ofopening from recent files, closing files, closing Writer, opening fromdisk. Always get A/B. How did I create this situation? How can I get out of it?--View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Fw%3A-When-is-a-Writer-Save-NOT-a-Save--tf3043548.html#a8514608Sent from the openoffice - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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