2007/2/23, Dutch Kind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Thanks for responding Henri;
>
> On Fri, 2007-02-23 at 15:26 +0100, M Henri Day wrote:
>
>> 2007/2/23, William Case <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>> Hi;
>>>
>>> I didn't want to hi-jack someone else's thread with a question that is
>>> close to the 'Accented Characters' discussion but not quite the same.
>>>
>>> I want to bind some accented keys and symbols to a mnemonic keys using
>>> the left and/or right Super (Windows) key.  I would like them to be
>>> universal; i.e. work in all, or at least most, applications in Linux.
>>>
>>> I have and use the compose key (Windows menu key).  I use the
>>> <Ctrl><Shift>+U + number.  But rather than having to remember a set of
>>> unicodes, I would like to bind either the key strokes (<Ctrl><Shift>+U
+
>>> number ) or an equivalent command to <Super_L> + <key>.  That way
>>> <Super_L> + < y > would give me ✔ ( a checkmark ) for example.  In
over
>>> two years of trying I have not found a way to bind equivalent
keystrokes
>>> to what I consider a mnemonic key combination.  In this case, Super_L
=
>>> all Bill's modified keys and y = yes = checkmark.
>>>
>>> Maybe someone here can tell me how to solve this.  I have tried the
>>> Gnome mailing list and forum two or three times over the last couple
of
>>> years and gotten no helpful response.
>>>
>>> I am using Fedora Core 6; Gnome 2.16.3; OOo 2.0.4
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards Bill
>>>
>> Bill, you and I seem to employ similar set-ups, save for the fact that
I use
>> Ubuntu Edgy where you use Fedora.
>>
>
> Yes.  What I want should work on any Linux distribution.
>
>> I not absolutely sure that I fully
>> understand what you're after,
>>
>
> I'll explain at the bottom.  My request has a lot of people confused,
> yet it seems so obvious to me.  Put most simply, if I can get a symbol
> or accented character by using a compose key or <Ctrl><Shift>+<U> then
> <unicode number>, I should be able to assign (bind) those key strokes to
> another, simpler set of keys, <A modifier Key>+<mnemonic key> --
> something like a OOo basic macro.
>
> Now, I am anticipating that there is, in fact, a better way to do it
> than using a macro which is only available when I am using an OOo
> application.
>
>
>> but if it's a series of mnemonic combinations
>> using a self-chosen «auto-key» (I use Right Windows), why not try the
list
>> available on the page to which John M King kindly provided a link :
>> http://andrew.triumf.ca/iso8859-1-compose.html. Might just possibly be
what
>> you're looking for !...
>>
>>
> Been there.  I use the compose key now to get those symbols and accented
> characters.  The problem is there are other unicode symbols etc. that
> are not part of any compose list.
>
> For example, I use the checkmark (U2714) fairly often and it is not in
> any compose charts I have seen.  Or, I used to write small articles
> about playing the card game 'Bridge'.  Spade = U2660, Club = U2663,
> Heart = U2665, Diamond = U2666 and 'No Trump' = NT.  I would be very
> convenient if I could bind those card suite unicodes to a consistent
> mnemonic set of keys. Or, I am English Canadian who learnt touch typing
> on US keyboards but often use french words.  I would like to add easy to
> type, frequently used accented characters to my keyboard without
> disturbing my compose set up.
> E.G. <Super_R>+<e> => é or <Super_L>+e => è etc.  I want to emphasize, I
> don't what to change my compose setup, it still has lots of uses, but
> add some keys so that I can keep up my rhythm of thought while typing.
>
>
>> Henri
>>
>
> Doesn't that make sense?  Shouldn't it be easy?
>
Maybe I understand this wrong, but what is needed are accented
characters without typing all those numbers. There is an easy way, at
least for the keyboards I know. If you use the american layout keyboard
you can, in linux, select a sub version ot the keyboard, for example the
international or alt-international variant for an american keyboard has
the accented characters as dead keys, i.e. when you press them, nothing
happens until you type a next character. So if you want " you have to
type " followed by space, but if you want ö you just type " followed by
the o . The same for ' which can create the accented éáó , etc. Other
keyboards that work that way are for example the spanish keyboard. I use
linux with KDE and it works fine for me, having the american keyboard.
And living in Spain, I sometimes need the upside down question mark, so
I have the spanish keybaord installed and by just clicking on the icon
in the systray I switch to that one (or hit Ctrl-Alt-k) This works
system wide, for all applications, in xwindows. I assume in gnome as
well as in KDE.

Dutch Kind


I get ¿ on my Scandinavian keyboard via Alt Gr + Shift  + «+» (on my
keyboard, the plus sign is on the key immediately to the right of «0» ;
Shift + this key gives «?»...

Henri

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