On 08/13/2007 04:20 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote: > On 13/08/07, jonathon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Freud Babes wrote: >> > Könnte ich, bitte. downloaden und benützen mit Vista nur "Writer" in >> Deutsch, >> >( jedoch manchmal auch in Englisch und Spanisch) ? >> >> Windows Vista Ultimate Edition: Ja >> Windows Vista Enterprise Edition: Ja >> >> Alle weiteren Versionen: Nein. >> >> ##### >> >> For whoever wanted to know why i described Vista crippled, this is a >> shining example of why it is defective by design. >> >> xan >> >> jonathon > > > <snip> > > I'm not too sure of my ground here so perhaps someone could help me (and the > OP) if I get things wrong ... > > First, a definition: I'm going to use the term User Interface Language (UIL) > to mean the language in which menus, help text and so on are displayed. If > this is not the correct definition, please someone let me know what is the > correct meaning. > > Given that definition, it seems to me that the UIL for Windows (a) has very > little to do with the UIL for OO, which is handled by OO's language packs > and (b) has nothing at all to do with the language of one's documents. > > Also using that definition, it seems to me that most people are happy to > work with a single UIL provided they can create documents in different > languages with the implied correct spell and/or grammar checking > functionality. In the context of OO, writing and checking documents in > different languages is nothing at all to do with the UIL and is a question > of downloading and installing the correct dictionaries and of possibly > creating appropriate styles. > > I freely admit there will be many small groups of users e.g couples of > different nationalities of a single computer where different users would > prefer to work with different UILs and that not having that facility in the > "home" versions of Vista is a shortcoming. But I still don't see how it > impacts on OO. > > It also seems to me that telling the OP of this thread that he won't be able > to use different languages for his documents on some versions of Windows is > misleading to say the least. Or ???? > > Just out of curiosity, which versions of Linux can I install that support > multiple UILs? > >
I think that jonathan is correct on this issue. Of course someone from Germany etc., that is running Vista will need to verify. http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/vista/Vista_Language_Support.mspx If you enter German here the result will show: <quote> * LP (Language Pack) — LP languages can be added as an additional User Interface (UI) language to any localized version of Windows Vista Enterprise or Ultimate. ** LIP (Language Interface Pack) — LIP languages can only be added to its primary language version of Vista (i.e. Catalan can be installed on a Spanish version of Vista, but not on a Russian version). </quote> Additional information is here: http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/oslocversion.mspx and here http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/oslocversion.mspx#winVistaLIP But this last seems confusing as it states: <quote> All Windows Vista LIPs can be installed on top of Windows Vista Home Premium, Windows Vista Ultimate,Windows Vista Business and Windows Vista Enterprise </quote> If would be nice if the Gullfoss/Sun folks could clarify this issue once and for all and a note in the OOo system requirements be made. I for one don't use Windows anymore, and my latest version on the dualboot test machine is WindowsXPPro, so I can't provide any further information. That said; It would be nice if johnathan could perhaps tone down and/or correct his standard reponse re Vista from: > The big issue is how crippled is the version of Windows Vista that you > are using. > > If you use version of Windows Vista other than: > * Windows Vista Ultimate Limited Edition; > * Windows Vista Ultimate Edition; > * Windows Vista Enterprise Edition; > your version of Windows Vista is crippled. This will have a negative > impact on the functionality of OOo. This is because Windows Vista is > Defective by Design. to something along the lines of: You can indeed use OpenOffice with Windows Vista. However, please be aware that the various versions of Vista limit your ability to do the following with OpenOffice: - list *documented* issues with the various versions of Vista Note that this an Microsoft Operating System issue rather than an OpenOffice issue. These same issues will also occur when using Microsoft Office. Reference links are located here: - provide MS links OpenOffice is available in over 30 languages and is fully functional in Windows (98, 2000, XP and Vista), Linux, Solaris, and MAC. Please see: http://native-lang.openoffice.org/ and/or http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html for a list of OpenOffice native language projects. and leave out the "your version of Windows Vista is crippled" bit. Johnathan, IMO it does OOo no good at all when you send a negative comment such as this to new/prospective users of OOo. Many, if not all, of these queries are coming from standard home type users that are just realizing that their MS Office trials have run out, their pirated from work older MS Office copies no longer work, etc., etc. *Please* leave out the FUD/personal's and just reply with the facts if you must. Our (there is an 'our' here) goal as OOo users is to encourage and help other folks use OOo. It is not to lambast any operating system or other software in the process. Gary --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
