On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:39:56 -0700
M Singh wrote:

> M Singh wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> >         I am using the latest openoffice calc (2.3) on Ubuntu Gutsy.
> >         Using
> > Crossover, I also have Microsoft Excel installed on the machine.
> > 
> >         I had a spreadsheet which was a tabulation of some material
> >         properties (one
> > column with the name of the material and three columns with three
> > different properties.
> > 
> >         I wanted to sort the entire table on one column. In
> >         Openoffice.org calc, I
> > selected the column I wanted to sort on and pressed the toolbar sort
> > ascending button. It worked but it didn't do what I wanted - it just
> > sorted that column, ignoring the possibility that the data in the
> > corresponding rows of the other three columns might possibly be
> > related(its a literally accurate response to my actions on the
> > toolbar, but its useless). I could not find any way to do what I
> > wanted.
> > 
> >         So, just curious to see how Microsoft Excel would handle
> >         this situation
> > (whether it would show some intelligence at all), I exported the ods
> > file to xls and opened it up in Excel. Did the same. Immediately, a
> > pop up box opened up asking me if I wanted to expand the selection
> > as it had detected some data around the column, or just wanted to
> > sort it.
> > 
> >         I expanded the selection, and I was done. I wonder if people
> >         designing
> > Openoffice.org Calc have given any thought to such situations ?
> > After all, when you have a spreadsheet with multiple columns, isn't
> > it even remotely likely (I would put the likelihood northwards of
> > 99%) that the person requesting the sort might have related data in
> > other columns ?
> > 
> >         By all means, the present behavior of the program should be
> >         present as an
> > option, but the other behavior is so much more likely to be the one
> > that the user wants, that it should at least offer the option to do
> > the logical thing.
> > 
> >         An example of the literally correct not being the logically
> >         correct, and a
> > possible result of lack of real world trials of the code before
> > releasing it.
> > 
> >         I am not bashing Openoffice.org calc as I rely on openoffice
> >         programs 90%
> > of the time when I am not using LaTeX, but one would have thought
> > that a program that is about 6 years old would have sorted out
> > something as basic as this with a function that is so common that it
> > is on the main toolbar. I refuse to believe that I am the first
> > person to encounter this kind of behavior and report it.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> 
> The plot thickens.
> 
> Thanks to a private correspondent who wrote to me after seeing this
> message, I have found that if one uses the Data | Sort workflow, one
> does get a pop up box asking which column I wish to sort on provided I
> select the entire spreadsheet before doing that. The main toolbar
> buttons do what I described in my first post.
> 
> I wish Calc could mimic the Excel behavior as described here
> completely. What it currently does with the toolbar buttons is not
> terribly useful for most people (at least offer that pop up box).
> 

What do you get using teh toolbar buttons if you select the entire range
to be sorted (not just one column).

-- 
Michael

All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall
be well

 - Julian of Norwich 1342 - 1416

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