That about sums it up Harold. Finally someone agrees with me that the digest sends ezm attachments, that some mail clients don't understand. What puzzles me is that I didn't find something on the web telling me what ezm's were.
The thunderbird I tried is a fairly old portable version on top of MtPostman. I can verify that they are vanilla ASCII, I loaded them up into my hex editor, it displays non-ascii hex in red and ascii hex in blue, couldn't see any red, when I requested an ascii display it did not complain, which it would have done, had there been any non ascii bytes. I know this pgm works 'cos I wrote it decades ago in asm. However that doesn't mean all ezm's are vanilla ascii, although it's probably safe to assume that all ezm's from this ezmlm instance for this mailing list are so. Anyway from now on I'm using Forte Agent 4.2 on the newgroup, better by an aussie country mile than any mailing lists in any mail client. I think I may have confused the mailer - when I resubscribed I did so under another email address now I can't unsubscribe. But I fixed that to, my mail client now regards the mailer as a junk mail generator. I'm not watching this anymore, I regard the issue as resolved. On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:59:46 +0100, Harold Fuchs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 09/04/2008 23:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Ah - but do they subscribe to the digest, or do they get individual >> posts. >> >> I get the same result in T'bird and Outlook Express, so it's not the >> mail client. BTW I changed to Live.Mail when I recently rebuilt my >> system - so far I like it, at least as good as Thunderbird and >> MrPostman which is what I was using and better than Outlook (by a >> country mile) & Eudora. >> >> But now I've found the gmane newsgroup I'll be using that, I never did >> like mailing lists. >> >> Must remember to use emoticons tho', otherwise people will take >> everything too seriously. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jim Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 7:41 AM >> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.openoffice.questions >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: re : MY "why i am unsubscribing from this list" rant >> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>>> I've created a an association that fires up my favourite rtf editor >>>> . I could have used notepad, but the day may come when limited >>>> formatting is allowed in these posts. Why not OO - my favourite rtf >>>> editor loads at notepad speeds whereas OO takes a more than a tad >>>> longer. >>> >>> Most of us get replies from this list as normal email, or through >>> gmane where it still looks exactly like normal email. Formatting is >>> certainly allowed in these posts. Occasionally an HTML email will >>> appear with colors and so forth (which you may not see under your >>> current system). But in any case its bad form to use HTML for normal >>> EMAIL communication, especially where you dont know whether the end >>> user may be paying for download time. So, as with most email forums, >>> formatting with HTML is seldom used. I really dont see RTF >>> formatting ever being used in any EMAILS as a standard. >>> >>>> I suspect ezm denotes EzMail, the mail list software calls itself >>>> "ezmlm" - EzyMail List Manager ? Why it doesn't send the posts as >>>> text attachments I don't know >>> >>> The posts are created and sent and received by most of us as standard >>> email, that is, text files formatted for email. After all, this is, >>> primarily, a mailing list. People here normally use things like >>> Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Eudora, Pine, or Mutt or >>> various other normal email programs to handle their email, whatever >>> they like best and can use on their operating systems, or just >>> whatever came with their system. >>> >>>> Whoever has influence over this program might like to make some >>>> changes so that post attachments are sent as .txt files, or put >>>> instructions into the boilerplate response to the subscribe request >>>> suggesting folks set up a file association for "ezm" attachments to >>>> their favourite text editor. >>> >>> Ao far as I know, you are only one seeing ezm attachments. And the >>> default editors on the products I named above are usually good enough >>> already. >>> >>> According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezmlm the last update of >>> Ezmlm was in 1997, over ten years ago. >>> >>> Jim Allan >> >I just subscribed to the *Digest* and asked for some messages. They came >as attachments to a "normal" e-mail. The names of the attachments have >".ezm" extensions which I assume comes from the "ezmlm" list manager >program as the OP suggests. I used Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 on Win XP Pro >for this. Each attachment has a Thunderbird icon and opens without >comment/question in Thunderbird simply by double clicking on the icon. >When I "detach" one of the files it acquires an "urecognised file type" >icon. > >I forwarded the message, with its attachments to a Windows system on >which Thunderbird is not installed. When I open this forwarded message >in Outlook Express the attachments have that same "unrecognised file >type" icon. > > I found that Thunderbird, Firefox, Wordpad and OpenOffice Writer :-) >:-) can all happily open the files but Outlook Express, Internet >Explorer and Adobe Acrobat Reader don't know what to do with them. I >also found that UltraEdit32 can open them which strongly suggests that >they are raw text files. This is confirmed by the fact that the "DOS" >(CMD) "type" command ("cat" for *nix lovers) correctly displays the >contents of the file. > >So, the conclusion is that these are raw text files with a rather >unusual (?) extension. As the Americans say, go figure. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
