[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can verify that they are vanilla ASCII, I loaded them up into my
hex editor, it displays non-ascii hex in red and ascii hex in blue,
couldn't see any red, when I requested an ascii display it did not
complain, which it would have done, had there been any non ascii
bytes. I know this pgm works 'cos I wrote it decades ago in asm.
However that doesn't mean all ezm's are vanilla ascii, although it's
probably safe to assume that all ezm's from this ezmlm instance for
this mailing list are so.
I and others have sent text at times in Unicode or other code pages. As
far as I know, there were no complaints. And I almost always use curly
quotation marks: “ and ” which are not in ASCII as well as long dashes (
–, — ) which are not in ASCII when posting here and other places.
Here are some other common non-ASCII characters: CAPITAL OE DIGRAPH: Œ,
GREEK SMALL THETA: θ, EURO CURRENCY SIGN: €, RIGHT ARROW: →, SUPERSCRIPT
SMALL N: ⁿ.
Thunderbird warns me and suggests I send in UTF-8 with a check box for
agreement.
Jim Allan
Anyway from now on I'm using Forte Agent 4.2 on the newgroup, better
by an aussie country mile than any mailing lists in any mail client.
I think I may have confused the mailer - when I resubscribed I did so
under another email address now I can't unsubscribe. But I fixed that
to, my mail client now regards the mailer as a junk mail generator.
I'm not watching this anymore, I regard the issue as resolved.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:59:46 +0100, Harold Fuchs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 09/04/2008 23:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ah - but do they subscribe to the digest, or do they get individual
posts.
I get the same result in T'bird and Outlook Express, so it's not the
mail client. BTW I changed to Live.Mail when I recently rebuilt my
system - so far I like it, at least as good as Thunderbird and
MrPostman which is what I was using and better than Outlook (by a
country mile) & Eudora.
But now I've found the gmane newsgroup I'll be using that, I never did
like mailing lists.
Must remember to use emoticons tho', otherwise people will take
everything too seriously.
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From: "Jim Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 7:41 AM
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.openoffice.questions
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: re : MY "why i am unsubscribing from this list" rant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've created a an association that fires up my favourite rtf editor
. I could have used notepad, but the day may come when limited
formatting is allowed in these posts. Why not OO - my favourite rtf
editor loads at notepad speeds whereas OO takes a more than a tad
longer.
Most of us get replies from this list as normal email, or through
gmane where it still looks exactly like normal email. Formatting is
certainly allowed in these posts. Occasionally an HTML email will
appear with colors and so forth (which you may not see under your
current system). But in any case its bad form to use HTML for normal
EMAIL communication, especially where you don’t know whether the end
user may be paying for download time. So, as with most email forums,
formatting with HTML is seldom used. I really don’t see RTF
formatting ever being used in any EMAILS as a standard.
I suspect ezm denotes EzMail, the mail list software calls itself
"ezmlm" - EzyMail List Manager ? Why it doesn't send the posts as
text attachments I don't know
The posts are created and sent and received by most of us as standard
email, that is, text files formatted for email. After all, this is,
primarily, a “mailing” list. People here normally use things like
Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Eudora, Pine, or Mutt or
various other normal email programs to handle their email, whatever
they like best and can use on their operating systems, or just
whatever came with their system.
Whoever has influence over this program might like to make some
changes so that post attachments are sent as .txt files, or put
instructions into the boilerplate response to the subscribe request
suggesting folks set up a file association for "ezm" attachments to
their favourite text editor.
Ao far as I know, you are only one seeing ezm attachments. And the
default editors on the products I named above are usually good enough
already.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezmlm the last update of
Ezmlm was in 1997, over ten years ago.
Jim Allan
I just subscribed to the *Digest* and asked for some messages. They came
as attachments to a "normal" e-mail. The names of the attachments have
".ezm" extensions which I assume comes from the "ezmlm" list manager
program as the OP suggests. I used Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 on Win XP Pro
for this. Each attachment has a Thunderbird icon and opens without
comment/question in Thunderbird simply by double clicking on the icon.
When I "detach" one of the files it acquires an "urecognised file type"
icon.
I forwarded the message, with its attachments to a Windows system on
which Thunderbird is not installed. When I open this forwarded message
in Outlook Express the attachments have that same "unrecognised file
type" icon.
I found that Thunderbird, Firefox, Wordpad and OpenOffice Writer :-)
:-) can all happily open the files but Outlook Express, Internet
Explorer and Adobe Acrobat Reader don't know what to do with them. I
also found that UltraEdit32 can open them which strongly suggests that
they are raw text files. This is confirmed by the fact that the "DOS"
(CMD) "type" command ("cat" for *nix lovers) correctly displays the
contents of the file.
So, the conclusion is that these are raw text files with a rather
unusual (?) extension. As the Americans say, go figure.
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