On 05/07/2008 08:08 PM, James Knott wrote:
> NoOp wrote:

>> I've a few of those, and 8251 USART's out in the garage... I know the
>> 8251 could be configure to allow 1.5 stop bits, can't recall if the 8250
>> also had this option. However, 1.5 was only used for characters with 5
>> information bits, so it wouldn't apply to standard/modern modems anyway.
>>
>>
>>   
> 
> On the 8250 and later, you specified the number of data bits and stop 
> bits separately, so it was possible to have any combination of data bits 
> and stop bits.  However, in all my years of experience with working with 
> this stuff, I have never, not once, seen 1.5 stop bits used with 8 bit 
> codes.  It's always been either 1 or 2 stop bits, though 1.42 and 1.5 
> were common with 5 bit codes.  I've also never seen a UART that could do 
> 1.42 stop bits, which is found only on mechanical devices.  A UART would 
> be configured for 1.5 stop bits, which isn't much of a difference from 
> 1.42.  So, while it is technically possible to configure for 8 data bits 
> and 1.5 stop bits, it's never, to my knowledge, ever been done in 
> production systems, as it doesn't comply with any of the standard 
> codes.  As I mentioned in another note, this is one area, having worked 
> for 36 years in data communications and computers, that I have a *LOT* 
> of experience.  In fact, when I designed & built that 8 port serial card 
> I mentioned earlier, I found a bug in the 8250 that National 
> Semiconductor didn't know about.  I even got a nice letter from them for 
> finding it.

Well we are *well* OT on this thread aren't we?  But while we are; I've
never heard of 1.42 stop bits use in any modem technology. Yes, in
telegraphy, but not in *any* modems or any other telephoney networking
situations. So back on 1.5SB: I seem to recall that it was quite useful
in the 8251 for communications with teletype and selectric interfaces.
Of course I could be wrong, it's been 30 years or so since I designed
circuit boards to interface between that chip and my noisy mechanical
printers at the time. Hey, I used to refurbish brass bar cash registers
as well... does that count? :-)

I recommned that the nostalgia bits of this thread end. I'd much rather
like to know if the OP ever managed to download OOo and get it working.








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