At 02:32 23/04/2007, Christian Schlatter wrote:
>Alan,
>
>Alan Crosswell wrote:
>>One option being discussed here is running mysql replicated.  This
>>brings up the concern that the independent proxies are not aware that
>>they are talking to a single database instance.  Will there be issues
>>involved such as:
>>- deadlocks
>>- inconsistency of in-memory and in-database data structures
>>  (e.g. usrloc, presence)
>>- collisions of per-proxy unique keys that are inserted into
>>  tables
>>Personally, I think mysql replication violates KISS if I am trying to
>>have my redundant servers as independent and survivable as possible.
>
>With mysql master-slave replication only one proxy could write to the 
>database, so you'd need master-master replication which is possible but 
>doesn't offer ACID as mysql cluster does.

I would not constrain oneself, for example one can do symmetric two-way 
client-server
replication. We have done that once with SER, other testimony can be found in 
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1227865.1228010&coll=&dl=ACM&CFID=15151515&CFTOKEN=6184618
(referring to a Columbia University technical report for even more details).



>I agree that using DB replication violates KISS as would also do the 
>application layer state replication solutions you're describing below. 

I would say it depends on which type of data you are referring to. With SER 
(and I would
say this is 100% directly applicable to openser too) we have been using 
different replication
strategies to different types of data (tables).

>For me the best solution would be to have endpoints registering with all 
>redundant proxies in parallel. This would also be in-line with SIP's 
>redundancy in the previous hop. The newest firmware release for the Polycom 
>SIP phones does support that, though I haven't tested it yet. Are there other 
>endpoints implementing this feature?

The downside is that it does not work once you get a new SIP phone.

-jiri




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Jiri Kuthan            http://iptel.org/~jiri/


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