OK, here's what I found concerning ubuntu-7.10 VE vs. OpenVZ.

0. (just repeating) Ubuntu-7.10 template with upstart instead of init requires vzctl > 3.0.18. An updated vzctl (apparently it will have version of 3.0.21) is not yet released.

1. There was an obscure bug in not-yet-released vzctl, which fires when a Debian/Ubuntu based VE has more than one IP address. The bug is now fixed in GIT (see http://tinyurl.com/2w68ch) and will be included into next vzctl release. Note that released vzctl version (i.e. 3.0.18) is not affected.

2. Ubuntu 7.10 initscripts (including netscripts) relied on the fact that /var/run is resides on a tmpfs partition, so it would be empty after reboot. Because of that they don't care about stopping some services, cleaning state files etc. It only became a problem when I optimized Ubuntu template to not use tmpfs (because tmpfs eats some physical memory, which might not be desired then there are a lot of VEs on a system). Networking was not up on VE restart just because of that -- ifup script saved interface state in /var/run/network/ifstate, while ifdown was never called on VE stop, so next ifup (after VE reboot) was not taking care of interfaces which according to ifstate were already up.

This was fixed in an updated ubuntu templates that I just uploaded to http://download.openvz.org/template/precreated/. These templates are now back to using tmpfs for some directories. Other changes I made are: removal of a few more packages (ntpdate eject libasound2 pciutils tasksel tasksel-data laptop-detect), log files cleanup.

Also, while at it, I have modified Ubuntu Gutsy template creation document in wiki.
Latest version: http://wiki.openvz.org/Ubuntu_Gutsy_template_creation
My changes: http://tinyurl.com/2u2oxj

Hope that helps.

PS I appreciate if somebody can help with testing a new vzctl from git.
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Kir Kolyshkin wrote:
Cliff Wells wrote:
On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 19:35 +0300, Kir Kolyshkin wrote:
This is probably a problem with VE start, not stop. VE started badly and can not stop.

This is known issue (a bad interaction of Ubuntu's upstart (init replacement) and vzctl) which is fixed in upcoming vzctl release, see http://bugzilla.openvz.org/662

Now you have three options:
1. Wait for next vzctl release (should happen real soon now).
2. Replace upstart with init (sysvinit) inside a VE
3. Rebuild vzctl either from GIT or just adding the patch from git linked from bug #622.

I installed vzctl from git.  This seems to solve the problem with the VE
starting and stopping.  However, after the VE is run once, the network
refuses to come up unless I delete the VE's IP address and add it again:


vps1 ~ # vzctl start 106
Starting VE ...
VE is mounted
Adding IP address(es): 10.10.10.106
Setting CPU units: 1584
Configure meminfo: 72498
Set hostname: vz106
File resolv.conf was modified
VE start in progress...
vps1 ~ # vzctl enter 106
entered into VE 106
id: cannot find name for group ID 11
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,10000> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: venet0: <BROADCAST,POINTOPOINT,NOARP,UP,10000> mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue     link/void     inet 127.0.0.1/32 scope host venet0
    inet 10.10.10.106/32 scope global venet0:0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ping google.com
PING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=238
time=98.8 ms
64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=238
time=99.1 ms
64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=238
time=98.1 ms

--- google.com ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 98.106/98.696/99.138/0.504 ms
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# logout
exited from VE 106
vps1 ~ # vzctl stop 106
Stopping VE ...
VE was stopped
VE is unmounted
vps1 ~ # vzctl start 106
Starting VE ...
VE is mounted
Adding IP address(es): 10.10.10.106
Setting CPU units: 1584
Configure meminfo: 72498
Set hostname: vz106
File resolv.conf was modified
VE start in progress...
vps1 ~ # vzctl enter 106
entered into VE 106
id: cannot find name for group ID 11
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ping google.com
ping: unknown host google.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ip addr
1: lo: <LOOPBACK> mtu 16436 qdisc noop link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 3: venet0: <BROADCAST,POINTOPOINT,NOARP> mtu 1500 qdisc noop link/void [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/#
If I exit the VE and delete/re-add the IP address it starts working
again:

vps1 ~ # vzctl set 106 --ipdel all --save
Deleting IP address(es): Adding IP address(es): Saved parameters for VE 106
vps1 ~ # vzctl set 106 --ipadd 10.10.10.106 --save
Adding IP address(es): 10.10.10.106
Saved parameters for VE 106
vps1 ~ # vzctl enter 106
entered into VE 106
id: cannot find name for group ID 11
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# ping google.com
PING google.com (64.233.187.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from jc-in-f99.google.com (64.233.187.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=237
time=76.8 ms



Could this be another problem with upstart?

I am investigating the problem right now, will keep you updated.

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