> ----- "Dietmar Maurer" <diet...@proxmox.com> wrote: > > We at Proxmox ended up compiling the RHEL kernel for Debian. So we > > now have a Debian system with RHEL kernel and OpenVZ. So far that > works > > quite good. > > I'm very glad to hear that. Would you recommend that a stock Debian > user use your kernel for OpenVZ stuff? If so, I have to wonder how > well it would work on the upcoming distro releases that Suno was > talking about.
Sorry, but so far we only tested on Debian Lenny. But I guess it works on Debian Squeeze as well. > Also, you didn't mention it so I will... your "RHEL kernel for Debian" > also includes KVM support, right? If so, I imagine your kernel might > also be of interest to RHEL/CentOS host node users so they could gain > the KVM functionality. Would you recommend that? I assume that your > binary packaging of it is in .deb format and I'm not sure of the > process of installing that on an rpm-based system. I know .deb > packages use common underlying tools so even without dpkg I should be > able to get to the contents once I learn the specifics. You missed the fact that the OpenVZ RHEL/Centos kernel already includes quite good KVM support - we did not changed that. RHEL/Centos users can simply use the OpenVZ kernel (it already has KVM support - only KSM does not work). > And finally, to combine the two together... what about the other > tools... vzctl and vzquota? Would one use stock OpenVZ supplied > packages or would one use the tools packages by you as well for your > packaged kernel? And what about management of KVM machines? Again, that makes no sense (see above). > The simple answer I guess is to use Proxmox VE and I'm certainly not > against that as I know a number of happy PVE users and you do a > fantastic job of supporting your software. I'd just like, if at all > possible, to see some of the PVE stuff make it back out to the stock > OpenVZ user. I know your sources are available but so far we don't > have anyone in the community with the needed skills who has stepped > forward to do the work. I know I'm not qualified. I'd love to see > your "RHEL kernel for Debian" be available as a "RHEL kernel for rpm- > based distros that includes both OpenVZ and KVM support". Or maybe I'm "RHEL kernel for Debian" is the RHEL kernel - nothing changed (its only a deb instead of a rpm)! > looking at this the wrong way. I asked Kir some time ago if the newer > official OpenVZ RHEL-based kernels included KVM support and he said > that Red Hat doesn't package the KVM stuff with the kernel... and that > the KVM modules and user-space apps are in separate packages which > OpenVZ doesn't provide. So I guess the stock OpenVZ RHEL-5.4-based > kernel could be used for KVM! They have a separate package for the kvm userspace tools - that's all. Besides KVM should work without problems on the OpenVZ kernel - simply try. > stuff too if someone were packaging the extra bits or... perhaps... > if the existing RHEL/CentOS KVM support packages could be used if some > instructions were put together saying out. > > I use KVM for a few things (like for non-Linux VMs) and I'd love to be > able to use both OpenVZ and KVM on the same machine as a RHEL/CentOS > fanboy. > > Sorry for getting so off the topic that Suno originally asked about but > I like the directions this discussion is going in. :) I still wonder why you do not use debian ;-) - Dietmar _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@openvz.org https://openvz.org/mailman/listinfo/users