On 11/23/2014 04:59 AM, Nipun Arora wrote:
Hi Kir,

Thanks for the response, I'll update it, and tell you about the results.

1. A follow up question... I found that the write I/O speed of 500-1Mbps increased the suspend time to several minutes.(mostly pcopy stage) This seems extremely high for a relatively low I/O workload, which is why I was wondering if there are any special things I need to take care of. (I ran fio (flexible i/o writer) with fixed throughput while doing live migration)

Please retry with vzctl 4.8 and ploop 1.12.1 (make sure they are on both sides).
There was a 5 second wait for the remote side to finish syncing
copied ploop data. It helped a case with not much I/O activity in container, but
ruined the case you are talking about.

Newer ploop and vzctl implement a feedback channel for ploop copy that eliminates
that wait time.

http://git.openvz.org/?p=ploop;a=commit;h=20d754c91079165b
http://git.openvz.org/?p=vzctl;a=commit;h=374b759dec45255d4

There are some other major improvements as well, such as async send for ploop.

http://git.openvz.org/?p=ploop;a=commit;h=a55e26e9606e0b

2. For my purposes, I have modified the live migration script to allow me to do cloning... i.e. I start both the containers instead of deleting the original. I need to do this "cloning" from time to time for the same target container...

a. Which means that lets say we cloned container C1 to container C2, and let both execute at time t0, this works with no apparent loss of service. b. Now at time t1 I would like to again clone C1 to C2, and would like to optimize the rsync process as most of the ploop file for C1 and C2 should still be the same (i.e. less time to sync). Can anyone suggest what would be the best way to realize the second point?

You can create a ploop snapshot and use shared base image for both containers (instead of copying the base delta, hardlink it). This is not supported by tools (for example, since base delta is now shared you can't merge down to it, but the tools are not aware) so you need to figure it out by yourself and be accurate
but it should work.



Thanks
Nipun

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Kir Kolyshkin <k...@openvz.org <mailto:k...@openvz.org>> wrote:


    On 11/22/2014 09:09 AM, Nipun Arora wrote:
    Hi All,

    I was wondering if anyone can suggest what is the most optimal
    way to do the following

    1. Can anyone clarify if ploop is the best layout for minimum
    suspend time during live migration?

    Yes (due to ploop copy which only copies the modified blocks).


    2. I tried migrating a ploop device where I increased the
    --diskspace to 5G,
    and found that the suspend time taken by live migration increased
    to 57 seconds
    (mainly undump and restore increased)...
    whereas a 2G diskspace was taking 2-3 seconds suspend time... Is
    this expected?


    No. Undump and restore times depends mostly on amount of RAM used
    by a container.

    Having said that, live migration stages influence each other,
    although it's less so
    in the latest vzctl release (I won't go into details here if you
    allow me -- just make sure
    you test with vzctl 4.8).


    3. I tried running a write intensive workload, and found that
    beyond 100-150Kbps,
    the suspend time during live migration rapidly increased? Is this
    an expected trend?

    Sure. With increased writing speed, the amount of data that needs
    to be copied after CT
    is suspended increases.


    I am using vzctl 4.7, and ploop 1.11 in centos 6.5

    You need to update vzctl and ploop and rerun your tests, there
    should be
    some improvement (in particular with respect to issue #3).


    Thanks
    Nipun


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