On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Dent <ad...@ctcroydon.com.au> wrote: > Hi Didi > > Fair enough. > If I'm in this situation..... > I have 3 hosts with 6 production VMs. > The hosted-engine VM is completely toast and not recoverable.
Meaning? It does not even boot? If so, then I am afraid that you need to follow the linked procedure, including deploying hosted-engine again on new (or fully cleaned) storage. Are all 3 hosts also hosted-engine hosts? And you want to keep them this way? If so, you'll have to reinstall them. I think, didn't try, that after you deploy a new hosted-engine host, and restore the engine, the new engine will see your existing hosts, but hosted-engine-ha will not work. If you want to try and keep your VMs running, I guess your best bet is to try to add a new non-hosted-engine host (one or more, as needed), migrate your VMs to it (them), then remove the hosted-engine hosts and deploy them again as described there. > However I have a backup of the hosted-engine database (do I need anything > else). Only database? Or a backup taken by engine-backup? You also need various configuration files. To see the full list, in case you didn't use engine-backup but can restore individual files, check BACKUP_PATHS inside the script. But this is definitely not supported - you should first try verifying by restoring on a test VM and see what happens. > > Is it possible to build a new VM, import the backup of the previous > hosted-engine database and reconnect the storage domains and VMs in their > running state without any VMs experiencing an outage? As I wrote above, I think it is, but hosted-engine-ha will not work. If at all possible, I strongly suggest to try to simulate this in a test env. Can be done using nested-kvm VMs for hosts, if you do not have enough real hardware. > > The URL > http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/chap-Backing_up_and_Restoring_an_EL-Based_Self-Hosted_Environment/ > looks to be longer now. > I'll review, test and see if this will give me what I'm looking for. > > The broken link still seems to be broken. > When I click the link, the browser ends up at this > http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/chap-Backing_up_and_Restoring_an_EL-Based_Self-Hosted_Environment/chap-Installing_Additional_Hosts_to_a_Self-Hosted_Environment#documentation%20self%20hosted%20chap%20Backing%20up%20and%20Restoring%20an%20EL%20Based%20Self%20Hosted%20Environment%20chap%20Installing%20Additional%20Hosts%20to%20a%20Self%20Hosted%20Environment > > But I suspect it should be > http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/chap-Installing_Additional_Hosts_to_a_Self-Hosted_Environment/ In my previous mail I just wrote I sent a pull request, not that the site is updated already. I updated it since and it now seems ok to me. Best, > > Kind regards > > Andrew > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Yedidyah Bar David" <d...@redhat.com> > To: "Andrew Dent" <ad...@ctcroydon.com.au> > Cc: "users" <email@example.com> > Sent: 3/07/2017 11:12:05 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Recovering hosted-engine > >> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Andrew Dent <ad...@ctcroydon.com.au> >> wrote: >>> >>> Has anyone successfully completed a hosted-engine recovery on a multiple >>> host setup with production VMs? >> >> >> I'd like to clarify that "recovery" can span a large spectrum of >> flows, from a trivial "I did some change to the engine database >> that broke stuff and I want to restore a backup I took prior to >> this change" to a full system restoration including purchasing >> and deploying new (perhaps different) hosts/network/storage >> hardware, including many other flows in between. >> >> So when you plan for recovery, you should define very well what >> flows you plan to handle, and how you handle each. >> >> The linked procedure correctly says it's "providing an example". >> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ Original Message ------ >>> From: "Andrew Dent" <ad...@ctcroydon.com.au> >>> To: "users" <firstname.lastname@example.org> >>> Sent: 2/07/2017 2:22:16 PM >>> Subject: [ovirt-users] Recovering hosted-engine >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> A couple of questions about hosted-engine recovery. >>> Part way through this URL, in the section "Workflow for Restoring the >>> Self-Hosted Engine Environment" >>> >>> http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/self-hosted/chap-Backing_up_and_Restoring_an_EL-Based_Self-Hosted_Environment/ >>> it looks like once the hosted-engine is recovered on Host 1, the VMs on >>> Host >>> 2 and 3 will be running, but not accessible to the recovered Hosted >>> Engine. >>> Is that correct? >> >> >> I am pretty certain that the procedure assumed that all hosts need >> restoration, >> not that some are still up-and-running. >> >>> If so, how to you remove host 2 and host 3 from the environment, then >>> add >>> back in again while keeping the VMs running? >> >> >> That's a good question. >> >> Please try to describe the exact flow you have in mind. What's broken and >> needs restoration, and how do you plan to do that? >> >>> >>> Host 2 and Host 3 are not recoverable in their current state. These >>> hosts >>> need to be removed from the environment, and then added again to the >>> environment using the hosted-engine deployment script. For more >>> information >>> on these actions, see the Removing Non-Operational Hosts from a Restored >>> Self-Hosted Engine Environment section below and Chapter 7: Installing >>> Additional Hosts to a Self-Hosted Environment. >>> >>> BTW: The link referring to chapter 7 is broken. >> >> >> You are right. The link in the bottom of the page seems working. >> Now pushed  to fix. Thanks for the report! >> >>  >> >> Best, >> -- >> Didi > > -- Didi _______________________________________________ Users mailing list Users@ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users