Hi

We're struggling with this also.  We're running RHV 4.3 in our development
environment and have found that he latest client tools in conjunction
with v0.19
of the Windows 10 driver
<https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/qxl-wddm-dod/qxl-wddm-dod-0.19/>
has
made a big difference to performance.  Additionally, we have
/etc/ovirt-engine/osinfo.conf.d/20-overload.properties with:
os.windows_10.devices.display.vramMultiplier.value = 8
os.windows_10x64.devices.display.vramMultiplier.value = 8

This new driver isn't perfect though and we've found that various things
stop working after a couple of days. These include screen auto resizing and
also the mouse/keyboard gets captured when the screen auto resize stops
working.  Our clients are typically dual screen, each at 2560x1440.

We're going live with a new environment in about 4 months which will
include 140+ VDI Windows 10 VMs so we're very keen to get this sorted.

HTH

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 1:07 PM Leo David <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> I am comming back to this issue because of the need to spinup a couple of
> Win10 vdi vms, and I can see that the problem still persist - at least for
> me.
> I am using now a fresh installed and updated oVirt 4.2.8 and latest
> guest-tools iso. Still havig very laggy desktop experience on Win10.
> Win2012 seems fine, Win7 fine as well.
> Is there anyone of you guys having Win10 working at least decent for a vdi
> usage ? Any thoughts on this ?
> Thank you very much !
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2019, 08:38 Leo David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Not sure i've understood the procedure to create a custom vdsm hook.
>> Is this a good example to follow ?
>> https://github.com/oVirt/vdsm/blob/master/vdsm_hooks/README
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Leo
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 19:46 Michal Skrivanek <[email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2019, at 16:04, Leo David <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Victor.
>>> Yes, I have the latest guest-tools installed, and the problem is that
>>> after configuring the vm by using virsh and reboot,  the configuration
>>> reverts to defaults:
>>>     <graphics type='spice' autoport='yes' passwd='*****'
>>> passwdValidTo='1970-01-01T00:00:01'>
>>>       <listen type='network' network='vdsm-ovirtmgmt'/>
>>>       <channel name='main' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='display' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='inputs' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='cursor' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='playback' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='record' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='smartcard' mode='secure'/>
>>>       <channel name='usbredir' mode='secure'/>
>>>     </graphics>
>>> So my added changes are not loaded at vm boot.
>>>  I am sure this is an oVirt spicific behavior, but i just can;t find it
>>> out how to make this persistent.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can’t edit it in virsh in oVirt. Starting VM in oVirt is too complex
>>> for libvirt to handle it on its own. You need to write a vdsm hook if you
>>> want to modify resulting xml
>>>
>>> For trying out things I’d recommend to do that with a simple VM in
>>> virt-manager and once you find out the right config/parameters then write a
>>> hook with those for oVirt
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> michal
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 4:32 PM Victor Toso <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 04:24:15PM +0200, Leo David wrote:
>>>> > Hi Everyone,
>>>> > Any thoughts on this ?
>>>> > It seems that audio streaming is affected as well, and
>>>> > bandwidth is not an issue in this case.
>>>>
>>>> What audio issues do you see?
>>>>
>>>> > 'm thinking that maybe if I just just disable compression on
>>>> > spice,  things would get a bit better...maybe.
>>>> > Thank you !
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:05 AM Leo David <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Thank you so much Victor !
>>>> > > Anyone, any ideea how could I disable video compression for
>>>> > > spice console on particular vms ?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not familiar with oVirt interface but it shouldn't be hard if
>>>> you have access to the host.
>>>>
>>>> # virsh edit $vm-name
>>>>
>>>> switch what you have in graphics to:
>>>>
>>>>     <graphics type='spice' autoport='yes'>
>>>>         <image compression='off'/>
>>>>         <streaming mode='off'/>
>>>>     </graphics>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > > I am trying to implement an "almost" full desktop experience
>>>> > > with an oVirt based vdi environment.
>>>> > > And besides the Windows10 spice issues ( which are the main
>>>> > > cause of this thread ), it seems that Windows 7 is affected
>>>> > > too by the multimedia playing perspective. Which makes a
>>>> > > total blocker on project implementation....
>>>>
>>>> Do you have spice-guest-tools installed?
>>>>
>>>> > > Any suggestions/ similar experiences ?
>>>> > > Thank you very much and have a nice day !
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Leo
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>         Victor
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019, 12:01 Victor Toso <[email protected]
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Hi,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:50:49AM +0200, Leo David wrote:
>>>> > >> > Hi,
>>>> > >> > "This enable host-side streaming, are you sure you want it?"
>>>> > >> > Not sure yet, but i would at least disable compression, video
>>>> > >> > playing seems to be pretty poor, and crackling ( youtube, etc )
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> For playing video use-cases (youtube) it might be okay but not
>>>> > >> for playing games as it has some hard coded delay in the
>>>> > >> streaming code path.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> The streaming is mjpeg so you don't save much bandwidth either.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > "AFAIK, if virsh edit exits without issue, you need to shutdown
>>>> > >> > the vm and then start it again"
>>>> > >> > I did that,  and when the vm comes back on,  my changes are not
>>>> there
>>>> > >> > anymore ....
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Might be something specific to ovirt, not sure :(
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I hope someone else can help you.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:45 AM Victor Toso <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > > Hi,
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 02:08:48PM +0200, Leo David wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > Hi,
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > I am trying to disable video compression as per this thread:
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> https://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2017-January/078753.html
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > The thing is that I just can't figure out where to place the
>>>> > >> following:
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > <graphics type='spice' autoport='yes'>
>>>> > >> > > >     <listen type='address'/>
>>>> > >> > > >     <image compression='off'/>
>>>> > >> > > >     <streaming mode='filter'/>
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > This enable host-side streaming, are you sure you want it?
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > </graphics>
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > If I attempt to edit vm properties by using virsh and add
>>>> these
>>>> > >> > > > custom settings, the configuration file gets overwritten once
>>>> > >> > > > the vm reboots.
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > AFAIK, if virsh edit exits without issue, you need to shutdown
>>>> > >> > > the vm and then start it again. Reboot is not enough.
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > Any suggestions?
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > Thank you,
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > Leo
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 7:17 PM Leo David <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > > Hello everyone,
>>>> > >> > > > > Any chance that this issue to be already fixed in the new
>>>> 4.3
>>>> > >> version ?
>>>> > >> > > > > Thank you !
>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019, 12:25 Victor Toso <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> Hi,
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > > > >> On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 12:08:31PM +0200, Leo David wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Thank you very mucjh,  and sorry for being so lazy to
>>>> search
>>>> > >> > > > >> > for that rpm by myself. Somehow, fedora rpms missed
>>>> from my
>>>> > >> > > > >> > mind.  Oh boy, it requires a lot of packages. Do you
>>>> think
>>>> > >> > > > >> > would it be a good idea to temporarily install fedora
>>>> repos, do
>>>> > >> > > > >> > the yum installation to get the dependencoes too and
>>>> then
>>>> > >> > > > >> > disable the repo ? I am thinking to not break the ovirt
>>>> node
>>>> > >> > > > >> > installation.
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > > > >> The easiest path is to get the source from your current
>>>> rpm,
>>>> > >> > > > >> apply the patch mentioned in previous email, build,
>>>> install,
>>>> > >> > > > >> test.
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > > > >> If that does not work you can rollback. If works, you can
>>>> rethink
>>>> > >> > > > >> what is best.
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > > > >> Cheers,
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > > > >> >  yum localinstall spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Loaded plugins: enabled_repos_upload, fastestmirror,
>>>> > >> > > imgbased-persist,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > package_upload, product-id, search-disabled-repos,
>>>> > >> > > subscription-manager,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > vdsmupgrade
>>>> > >> > > > >> > This system is not registered with an entitlement
>>>> server. You
>>>> > >> can
>>>> > >> > > use
>>>> > >> > > > >> > subscription-manager to register.
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Examining spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Marking spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64.rpm as an
>>>> update to
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.0-2.el7_5.3.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Resolving Dependencies
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Running transaction check
>>>> > >> > > > >> > ---> Package spice-server.x86_64 0:0.14.0-2.el7_5.3
>>>> will be
>>>> > >> updated
>>>> > >> > > > >> > ---> Package spice-server.x86_64 0:0.14.1-1.fc30 will
>>>> be an
>>>> > >> update
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency:
>>>> > >> libcrypto.so.1.1(OPENSSL_1_1_0)(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > for
>>>> > >> > > > >> > package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>>>> > >> > > > >> >  * epel: ftp.nluug.nl
>>>> > >> > > > >> >  * ovirt-4.2-epel: ftp.nluug.nl
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency:
>>>> libssl.so.1.1(OPENSSL_1_1_0)(64bit)
>>>> > >> for
>>>> > >> > > > >> package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency: libcrypto.so.1.1()(64bit) for
>>>> > >> package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency: libgstapp-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> for
>>>> > >> package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency: libgstbase-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> for
>>>> > >> package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency:
>>>> libgstreamer-1.0.so.0()(64bit) for
>>>> > >> > > package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency:
>>>> libgstvideo-1.0.so.0()(64bit) for
>>>> > >> > > package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency: liborc-0.4.so.0()(64bit) for
>>>> > >> package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Processing Dependency: libssl.so.1.1()(64bit) for
>>>> package:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libgstvideo-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libgstbase-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libgstreamer-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires:
>>>> libcrypto.so.1.1(OPENSSL_1_1_0)(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: liborc-0.4.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libcrypto.so.1.1()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libssl.so.1.1(OPENSSL_1_1_0)(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libgstapp-1.0.so.0()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Error: Package: spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > (/spice-server-0.14.1-1.fc30.x86_64)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >            Requires: libssl.so.1.1()(64bit)
>>>> > >> > > > >> >  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the
>>>> problem
>>>> > >> > > > >> >  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Uploading Enabled Repositories Report
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, product-id,
>>>> subscription-manager
>>>> > >> > > > >> > This system is not registered with an entitlement
>>>> server. You
>>>> > >> can
>>>> > >> > > use
>>>> > >> > > > >> > subscription-manager to register.
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Cannot upload enabled repos report, is this client
>>>> registered?
>>>> > >> > > > >> >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Thank you  !
>>>> > >> > > > >> >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Leo
>>>> > >> > > > >> >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 10:19 AM Victor Toso <
>>>> > >> [email protected]>
>>>> > >> > > > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > >> >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > Hi,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 07:29:13PM +0200, Leo David
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > Thank you very much Victor,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > Is there a rpm that I can easily install on all the
>>>> nodes,
>>>> > >> or
>>>> > >> > > will
>>>> > >> > > > >> I need
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > to build that version from sources ?
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > You can fetch the release of 0.14.1 version at
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/spice/tags
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > You can fetch an rpm from Fedora here
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1138474
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > Cheers,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jan 7, 2019, 19:14 Victor Toso <
>>>> > >> [email protected]
>>>> > >> > > > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 07:00:04PM +0200, Leo
>>>> David
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Thank you very much !
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > I have modified
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > /etc/ovirt-engine/osinfo.conf.d/00-defaults.properties
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > file
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > and added the last line
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > # Windows10x64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.id.value = 27
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.name.value = Windows 10 x64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.derivedFrom.value =
>>>> windows_8x64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.productKey.value =
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.resources.maximum.ram.value =
>>>> 2097152
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.cpu.unsupported.value = conroe,
>>>> > >> opteron_g1
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > os.windows_10x64.sysprepPath.value =
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > ${ENGINE_USR}/conf/sysprep/sysprep.w10x64
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> *os.windows_10x64.devices.display.vramMultiplier.value
>>>> > >> = 2*
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > The vm has the "Windows10x64" profile configured
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Restarted the ovirt-engine vm, powered on the
>>>> Windows
>>>> > >> 10 vm.
>>>> > >> > > > >> Not any
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > difference...The console is very slow, almost
>>>> unusable.
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Also, tried to upgrade spice-server on the
>>>> node, but it
>>>> > >> > > seems
>>>> > >> > > > >> that
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > there
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > aeno updates available. At the moment, it is
>>>> installed:
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >  spice-server.x86_64
>>>> > >> > >  0.14.0-2.el7_5.3
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > Just for reference, the patch in spice-server
>>>> that should
>>>> > >> > > help is
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > from the mail thread
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/spice-devel/2018-June/044237.html
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > Merged as
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >>
>>>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/spice/commit/ca4984570f425e87e92abe5f62f9687bb55c1e14
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > Looking at the repo with git tag --contains
>>>> > >> > > ca4984570f425e87e92
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > it shows v0.14.1.
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > 0.14.0-2 probably does not contain that. Either
>>>> update to
>>>> > >> > > 0.14.1
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > or backport the patch. It does need to shutdown
>>>> and
>>>> > >> start the
>>>> > >> > > VM
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > again.
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Any thoughts ?
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > > Thank you !
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > I hope it helps ;)
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > > Cheers,
>>>> > >> > > > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > >
>>>> > >> > > > >> >
>>>> > >> > > > >> >
>>>> > >> > > > >> > --
>>>> > >> > > > >> > Best regards, Leo David
>>>> > >> > > > >>
>>>> > >> > > > >
>>>> > >> > > >
>>>> > >> > > > --
>>>> > >> > > > Best regards, Leo David
>>>> > >> > >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > --
>>>> > >> > Best regards, Leo David
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Best regards, Leo David
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards, Leo David
>>>
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