Hi Robbie,

I was using asynchronous onMessage delivery with transacted session for my
tests.

So from your email, I'm afraid it might be an issue. It will be great if you
could investigate a little on this and keep us update.

Thanks a lot,
Praveen

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Robbie Gemmell
<[email protected]>wrote:

> From the below, would I be right in thinking you were using receive()
> calls with an AutoAck session? If so then you would see the behaviour
> you observed as the message gets acked just before receive() returns,
> which makes the broker send the next one to the client. That shouldnt
> happen if you were using asynchronous onMessage delivery (since the
> ack gets since when the onMessage() handler returns), or if you you
> used a ClientAck or Transacted session in which you only acknowledged
> the message / commited the session after the processing is complete.
>
> I must admit to having never used the client with prefetch set to 0,
> which should in theory give you what you are looking for even with
> AutoAck but based on your comments appears not to have. I will try and
> take a look into that at the weekend to see if there are any obvious
> issues we can JIRA for fixing.
>
> Robbie
>
> On 26 October 2011 23:48, Praveen M <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Jakub,
> >
> > Thanks for your reply. Yes I did find the prefetch model and reran my
> test
> > and now ran into another issue.
> >
> > I set the prefetch to 1 and ran the same test described in my earlier
> mail.
> >
> > In this case the behavior I see is,
> > The 1st consumer gets the 1st message and works on it for a while, the
> 2nd
> > consumer consumes 8 messages and then does nothing(even though there was
> 1
> > more unconsumed message). When the first consumer completed its long
> running
> > message it got around and consumed the remaining 1 message. However,  I
> was
> > expecting the 2nd consumer to dequeue all 9 messages(the number of
> remaining
> > messages) while the 1st consumer was busy working on the long message.
> >
> > Then, I thought, perhaps the prefetch count meant that, when a consumer
> is
> > working on a message, another message in the queue is prefetched to the
> > consumer from the persistant store as my prefetch count is 1. That could
> > explain why I saw the behavior as above.
> >
> > What i wanted to achieve was to actually turn of any kinda prefetching
> > (Yeah, I'm ok with taking the throughput hit)
> >
> > So I re ran my test now with prefetch = 0, and saw a really weird result.
> >
> > With prefetch 0, the 1st consumer gets the 1st message and works on it
> for a
> > while, which the 2nd consumer consumes 7 messages(why 7?) and then does
> > nothing(even though there were 2 more unconsumed messages). When the 1st
> > consumer completed processing it's message it got to consume the
> remaining
> > two messages too. (Did it kinda prefetch 2?)
> >
> > Can someone please tell me if Is this a bug or am I doing something
> > completely wrong? I'm using the latest Java Broker & client (from trunk)
> > with DerbyMessageStore for my tests.
> >
> > Also, can someone please tell me what'd be the best way to turn off
> > prefetching?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> > Praveen
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Jakub Scholz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Praveen,
> >>
> >> Have you set the capacity / prefetch for the receivers to one message?
> >> I believe the capacity defines how many messages can be "buffered" by
> >> the client API in background while you are still processing the first
> >> message. That may cause that both your clients receive 5 messages,
> >> even when the processing in the first client takes a longer time.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Jakub
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 03:02, Praveen M <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I ran the following test
> >> >
> >> > 1) I created 1 Queue
> >> > 2) Registered 2 consumers to the queue
> >> > 3) Enqueued 10 messages to the Queue. [ The first enqueued message is
> >> long
> >> > running. I simulated such that the first message on consumption takes
> >> about
> >> > 50 seconds to be processed]
> >> > 4) Once the enqueue is committed, the 2 consumers each pick a message.
> >> > 5) The 1st consumer that got the long running message works on it for
> a
> >> long
> >> > time while the second consumer that got the second message keeps
> >> processing
> >> > and going to the next message, but  only goes as far until it
> processes 5
> >> of
> >> > the 10 messages enqueued. Then the 2nd consumer gives up processing.
> >> > 6) When the 1st consumer with the  long running message completes, it
> >> then
> >> > ends up processing the remaining messages and my test completes.
> >> >
> >> > So it seems like the two consumers were trying to take a fair share of
> >> > messages that they were processing immaterial of the time it takes to
> >> > process individual messages. Enqueued message = 10, Consumer 1 share
> of 5
> >> > messages were processed by it, and Consumer 2's share of 5 messages
> were
> >> > processed by it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is kinda against the behavior that I'd like to see. The desired
> >> > behavior in my case is that of each consumer keeps going on if it's
> done
> >> and
> >> > has other messages to process.
> >> >
> >> > In the above test, I'd expect as consumer 1 is working on the long
> >> message,
> >> > the second consumer should work its way through all the remaining
> >> messages.
> >> >
> >> > Is there some config that I'm missing that could cause this effect??
> Any
> >> > advice on tackling this will be great.
> >> >
> >> > Also, Can someone please explain in what order are messages delivered
> to
> >> the
> >> > consumers in the following cases?
> >> >
> >> > Case 1)
> >> >  There is a single Queue with more than 1 message in it and multiple
> >> > consumers registered to it.
> >> >
> >> > Case 2)
> >> > There are multiple queues each with more than 1 message in it, and has
> >> > multiple consumers registered to it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thank you,
> >> > --
> >> > -Praveen
> >> >
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > -Praveen
> >
>
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