Personally I'd probably release that client independently from the rest of
the java tree unless we happened to coincidentally want a patch release of
the rest of the Java tree at the same time.

Post 0.32 I think we are probably thinking of doing incremental patch
releases off the 0.32 branch for Java components if/when significant
defects come about (making 0.32 a sort of long term support version).  From
trunk we'll be starting on the great directory re-org so that as previously
discussed, going forward we'll be doing independent releases between Java
and C++ at a minimum, and possibly at an even finer granularity.

-- Rob



On 25 February 2015 at 17:05, Robbie Gemmell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That suggestion works for me in general. The only question would be
> around whether the other components in the 'java' tree alongside it
> currently would have to be released as well (the broker and other
> client would also be deployed curently by the parent 'java build'), or
> whether you would trim the client off out on its own?
>
> Robbie
>
> On 24 February 2015 at 15:24, Rob Godfrey <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So, I'm very much in favour of getting the new client released as soon as
> > possible.
> >
> > In terms of the old "JMS AMQP 1.0 Client" I suggest that post 0.32 we put
> > this into maintenance mode only... and that as we move to our new
> > release/directory structure we remove the legacy AMQP 1.0 client and only
> > release maintenance updates based on the 0.32 branch (as 0.32.1, 0.32.2
> > etc).
> >
> > Does anyone object to this plan?
> >
> > -- Rob
> >
> > On 18 February 2015 at 13:33, Robbie Gemmell <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We are getting to the point of wanting to do an initial release of the
> >> new AMQP 1.0 JMS client, which raises some items for discussion.
> >>
> >> The quick summary of an email that got quite long is: How do we
> >> version it? What do we name it? How do we handle the overlap with the
> >> older AMQP 1.0 JMS client?
> >>
> >>
> >> We have yet to begin publishing snapshots but this is something I
> >> would like to do soon, once we have a better idea around some of these
> >> items, so that people can test with it more easily before/between
> >> releases.
> >>
> >> At the moment the version number is 0.1[-SNAPSHOT], to be followed by
> >> 0.2 etc until we think there is sufficient maturity to go 1.0
> >> (sidenote: not years :P). The initial focus has been on implementing
> >> the JMS 1.1 API for now so change will come once we begin implementing
> >> the JMS 2.0 API, which could also be when we bump to 2.0 for the
> >> client itself if we hadn't already for other reasons. I envisage us
> >> doing releases more frequently than our existing components have
> >> tended to and expect we will do small point releases eventually, so I
> >> think it probably makes sense to use 0.1.0 etc from the start (or even
> >> 0.0.1 to underscore its the initial release). We could consider adding
> >> alpha/beta etc status, however we would then have to contend with the
> >> version ordering disparities between e.g Maven and OSGi by crafting
> >> some horrible release versions (including the final versions), and I'm
> >> not much of a fan of publishing those to central.
> >>
> >> Next up is the name. The new client has thus far been called simply
> >> 'Qpid JMS', with module names qpid-jms-foo, and binary tar
> >> apache-qpid-jms[-bin]. We already release two other JMS clients, the
> >> original AMQP 0-x one, module named qpid-client, and the older AMQP
> >> 1.0 one, module named qpid-amqp-1-0-jms-client. Although the new
> >> clients name describes what it is, and the version numbers will differ
> >> from the previous clients, do people think this is enough difference?
> >> I think it is still going to be confusing for people no matter what we
> >> do here, but should we perhaps give the new client a component name to
> >> allow them more easily distinguished, i.e a name of the style Qpid Foo
> >> or Qpid FooJMS? If so, any ideas (failing spectacularly over here)?
> >>
> >> As mentioned, we already release the older AMQP 1.0 JMS client, which
> >> raises some points for how we handle the overlap. We will obviously
> >> continue to release it for some period, until we presumably drop back
> >> to just having two JMS client again in form of the original 0-x client
> >> and the new 1.0 client once it has matured a bit. Currently the older
> >> 1.0 client is released along with the other components in the 'java
> >> tree', such as the Java broker and the AMQP 0-x JMS client. We have
> >> spoken about reorganising the source tree after 0.32 to better
> >> facilitate independent releases of components. I did wonder if this
> >> would also be an opportunity to make the older 1.0 client released
> >> independently from e.g the broker and 0-x client, as it could then be
> >> released more on-demand rather than on-schedule as presently. On the
> >> other hand, this might make the naming thing more confusing since it
> >> wouldn't simply be part of the 'java release' any longer and would
> >> stand alone just like the new client, in which case leaving it part of
> >> the 'java release' may actually be the simpler option.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Robbie
> >>
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