On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Justin Ross <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Aug 29, 2016 06:31, "Matt Broadstone" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Justin Ross <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Unless I've misunderstood the defect, this one will have to wait.  The
> RC
> > > is under vote, and it doesn't appear to be a regression or a
> vulnerability.
> > >
> > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65146133
> > > -
> > > Search for change acceptance criteria
> > >
> > >
> > That's unfortunate. Do you have a timeline for the next release? If the
> > last 3 releases are any indicator the cycle tends to be around a year,
> > which means I need to maintain another private build of qpid on my PPA.
>
>
Justin,

Apologies if I came off harsh in the last email, that wasn't my intention.


> If you look, you'll see that it's only the last span that has been a little
> over a year.  Before that we produced releases three times a year for
> several years.
>
>
Yes I was basing my assumptions on the last year (roughly the amount of
time I have been using qpidd). If what you're saying is that this issue has
been addressed, and we can expect patch released in a more timely fashion,
then I think that satisfies my question here.


> I don't have a specific plan, but we could do a short term 1.35.1.
>
> Do you consider it abnormal to carry a patch with an OS package? I do not.
> I don't understand how it requires a "private build".
>
>
Well this part is a little trickier.

I have packed the last two qpid releases for ubuntu, and intend to do that
again for the 1.35.0 release, but I would not expect that package to
include a patch that wasn't accepted for the release - would you?  To that
end, I would have to package another version of the release, and maintain
it on my own personal PPA (this is what I referred to as a private build).
In fact, the source of my apprehension wrt this bug fix is that I have done
just this for a slowly growing patch set over the past year including some
issues I've worked through privately with Gordon and was looking for a way
to not have to do that anymore.

> If I was going to get picky on the subject then: I reported this bug with
> a
> > potential fix around 3pm the day you announced the RC at 7pm, meaning it
> > was all technically mentioned and solved while the code was still in
> beta,
> > in which case a bugfix would have been an acceptable change :)
>
> Did you request it for the release, or ask for a delay?  I'm sorry if I
> missed your request.  Mentioning a bug or posting a patch for a bug is not
> sufficient by itself.
>
>
No no, of course not, and I wasn't being serious at all here. I was just
trying to see if there was any wiggle room for an exception really.
Considering the beta slipped by a few weeks I thought there might be some
space here.


> If you think the process is unclear, I will do my best to improve the
> documentation.
>
> >
> > But to be more serious about it, this bug shows that the LVQ in qpid is
> > broken imo . So I guess at very least you should update your documents to
> > reflect this problem.
>
> We can add a release note.  Please add a comment to QPID-7353 with a
> pointer to the Jira.
>
>
Will do.


> >
> > Regards,
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Gordon Sim <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 29/08/16 13:45, Matt Broadstone wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Is there any chance this would make it into the release?
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > That is a question for Justin, as the release manager.
> > > >
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