Ladies and Gentlemen, I understand that some of you disagree, however, at only 1000 or so users, you will lose to others with better documentation and ease of installation every time.
I keep seeing a lot of questions being asked on the board and there's a lot of help from this small community. Utilize the help to bring something better forward. As for reading 200-300 hundred pages, it just shows that people are not reading (or is it understanding) what I'm saying and want to just cry foul about my even suggesting it. The pages would be something of: Installing and LDAP service: Using SUN's LDAP: Using OpenLDAP: Using LDAP etc: Gee, if you're using one of these, are you going to read the others? NO. You're not going to read 60-70% of those documents. However, you're going to suck in all the people using all the variants as there exists nuances in the documentation for them and they'll see the effort has been made to help them in their endeavor. Again, I'm very high-end. It still took me quite a bit of time once I deviated from an OS that wasn't in the documentation and OpenLDAP had a nuance that wasn't specifically pointed out by breaking out that particular issue in a separate section. If you aren't understanding what I am trying to say... then read and digest... don't try to say "I have the exact configuration in the documentation and because it's my special case, it worked great. I don't know what you're talking about and I totally disagree with what you're saying" Sorry, that's just plain ignorance and flies in the face of exactly why you need better documentation for the reasons I've covered in this thread. However, I am done here. Live or die, I will use SOGo at my client sites for now. IF Zimbra, Horde, or something else gets their act together with their shortcomings, they will become my 'platform' of choice for my clients and I will easily migrate to them. I believe I had a lot to offer this project in this thread, however, I don't have time for this. I will post all of my struggles to get it working. It will be posted to the FreeBSD articles in their repository by another FreeBSD user on this site and the 'port' of the application will be put in the FreeBSD repository. Good day to everyone, I do hope this project gets more market share/traction. P. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [SOGo] Dear progammers and architects Did you get the Zeg to work? How? Please provide me the spec of your setup. Ray Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Ankeny <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 07:15:25 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOGo] Dear progammers and architects We get a lot of things done (when necessary) but reading 200 pages is not the focus and often a waste. After installation and configuration (which the ZEG has "instantly"), it's a matter of maintenance. IF there's a project, then a period of investigation is needed (that might require 200 pages or simply time) On the other hand, using the ZEG for investigative purposes takes a lot of that out of the picture. I'm sold on the convenience of the ZEG, and I'm willing to hire experts instead of trying to become one. There are too many other things to focus on within the business than reading extra-long documentation. I'd rather be busy troubleshooting network or client/server issues. On 07/08/2013 05:35 AM, Sven Schwedas wrote: > On 08.07.2013 10:56, Steve Ankeny wrote: >> Agree completely, Mourik! >> >> 'high-end' people will already know what's being suggested, and >> 'low-end' people will not read 200 pages! I'm a 2-3 year 'low-end' >> administrator (i.e., 'newbie'), and I wouldn't read 200 pages to get it >> installed. > Maybe some people just need to find a job that isn't so demanding. How > are you getting anything done if you cannot be arsed to actually do > anything? > -- [email protected] https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- [email protected] https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists-- [email protected] https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
