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Yeah, if you're using gotmail, you need to disable that rule. It'll never FP *except* on gotmail mail. - --j. Guyang Mao writes: > To start with, I am using spamassassin as a part of mimedefang, with network > tests enabled. > > And here's my situation: > > I have a Hotmail account, through which I'm subscribed to various Microsoft > mailing lists such as security updates, MSDN information, MCP lists, etc. > Microsoft's bulk mailer adds a X-Message-Info header. I fetch this mail > through gotmail, which then stuffs it through > sendmail/mimedefang/spamassassin. > > The matched rule X_MESSAGE_INFO is worth 4.2 points. With the default > threshold of 5.0, all it usually needs is one other rule to push the mail > over the limit. One problem is when the piece of mail enters DCC (since > Microsoft lists have a HUGE distribution their mail is pretty much > guaranteed to be listed in DCC, as I understand it) and is scored an > additional 2.2. As far as I can tell DCC does not distinguish between > potential spam and ham, so while it's useful in most circumstances it's > really easy to false-positive with this rule. > > Another problem is the path Microsoft mail usually takes to hit Hotmail. A > lot of their mailing list servers seem to take an internal path to the > Hotmail servers, thus also triggering FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD rules, so even if > the mail does not hit DCC it can also be snagged by this rule. > > While I'm happy enough to re-score X_MESSAGE_INFO in my local rules, it > seems to me that this rule has such a large false-positive potential that > the scoring should be reconsidered "upstream". > > Thanks for your attention. > > Guyang Mao > > - attached are two examples of false-positived Microsoft mail > - I have also had Hewlett-Packard mail false-positived by X_MESSAGE_INFO, so > it's by no means exclusive to Microsoft lists -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Exmh CVS iD8DBQFBmntfMJF5cimLx9ARArAiAJ9U6Tq9fR41QFVWfQpSyfXnnf3k1wCfYHBT O2CB1UEO7P+P7Fbe7bvaxsQ= =UFCt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----