On 2019-05-10 12:42, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

I wanted to comment OP's mail, but since I don't have DKIM set up, I wasn't
sure it would pass  :-)

I actually didn't have DKIM signing set up myself until a couple weeks ago. I had been lazy in setting it for a while, but I had to because the first time I would email anyone on gmail it was going directly to their spam folder. Hotmail too, to a lesser extent. But Google is really aggressive with unsigned mail, and they have a strong "it's our way or the highway" policy.

On 10.05.19 14:48, David Jones wrote:

I caution against this since non-DKIM signed email has no relation to
spam or ham. How did you come up with the "about 90%" number? Did you
grep logs to get real numbers over a couple of months?

I should clarify. I do get DKIM-signed spam. I just don't get any non-DKIM-signed ham. Going back and looking at my archived mail and logs I can see that a) all legitimate emails were DKIM-signed, and b) virtually every message that was not DKIM-signed was spam. So I intend to assign no ham scoring weight to a message having a DKIM signature, but I do feel pretty safe in assigning a heavy penalty to those mails without it.

Sorry Matus. :)

     Kurt

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