I'd be interested in seeing a spample or two.  We have virtually no hits
but if it's in the wild, that changes my opinion.  The key thing I would
want to know is does this rule push it over the edge or is it already
scoring a bazillion and this just adds to it?
--
Kevin A. McGrail
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Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 7:44 PM Amir Caspi <ceph...@3phase.com> wrote:

> I’m surprised, a huge percentage of the spam we get hits this rule. I am
> happy to submit spamples, but it is a very big spam indicator for our
> little server.
>
> --- Amir
> thumbed via iPhone
>
> On May 29, 2019, at 6:10 PM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> At work, we looked at this and decided the rule had no merit based on
> current mailstreams. Our guess was that the spam run it hit has ended.  It
> is a deadweight rule.
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2019, 18:05 John Hardin <jhar...@impsec.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 16 May 2019, John Hardin wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 16 May 2019, Amir Caspi wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:51 PM, RW <rwmailli...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> header    BOGUS_MIME_VERSION   MIME-Version =~ /^(?!\s*1\.0).+/
>> >>>
>> >>> it may be better to change that to
>> >>>
>> >>>   /^(?!.*\b1\.0\b).+/
>> >>>
>> >>> to avoid punishing the form
>> >>>
>> >>>  Mime-Version: (Nosuch Mail 2.0) 1.0
>> >>>
>> >>> which is valid, though I don't think I've ever seen it (comments are
>> >>> usually on the right).
>> >>
>> >> John, so many of my spams are hitting BOGUS_MIME_VERSION that I would
>> >> imagine it's worth sandboxing and incorporating into the primary
>> ruleset.
>> >
>> > I've added both versions as unscored rules so we can see how they
>> perform.
>>
>> Masscheck doesn't think much of them:
>>
>>
>> https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20190529-r1860321-n/__BOGUS_MIME_VER_01/detail
>>
>> https://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20190529-r1860321-n/__BOGUS_MIME_VER_02/detail
>>
>> The good news is their S/O is 1.00 (not that that means much given the
>> small hit rate), and the bulk of the spams they hit currently score zero.
>>
>> We could manually push them with score = 1.000, and let local admins
>> decide whether to adjust the score.
>>
>> Opinions solicited.
>>
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