On 20/11/2024 16:39, Nix wrote:
On 20 Nov 2024, Nick Howitt uttered the following:



On 20/11/2024 12:55, Nix wrote:
On 19 Nov 2024, Greg Troxel told this:

Matija Nalis <mnalis-sa-l...@voyager.hr> writes:

  From 
https://knowledge.validity.com/s/articles/Accessing-Validity-reputation-data-through-DNS
 :

   Starting March 1, 2024, Validity will allow up to 10,000 requests to 
anonymous users over a 30-day period.

10k requests per 30-day period is about 333 queries/day. Or less than 14 
queries per hour.
Not very much at all (and certainly at least order of magnitude less than your 
stated traffic).
No amount of local DNS caching is going to fix limits *that low*.

That is remarkably low.
... the account is free and then they hit you with an EULA that says

The Services are available at the then-current rate. Customer shall
pay all applicable fees when due as invoiced and, if fees are being
paid via credit card or other electronic means, Customer authorizes
Validity to charge fees using Customer’s selected payment method.
By my reading that means they can just decide to start charging you and
you have no recourse?! Though the account is explicitly stated in huge
letters to be "free", so one hopes that would count as the "then-current
rate". The near-contradiction is unfortunate though, and there's no
indication about them having to tell you when they change their fees.
(Not that they could get any money from me without asking anyway.)
The account requires a 'company name', so I guess if you're an
individual you're... fucked?

Sorry but this is conspiracy theory rubbish. You can open an account
easily and use your name as a business. You can possibly easily put in
"none" or "n/a" and the account is yours. No billing details or
address details at all so how can they suddenly start billing?

They can't, but they might think they can start hitting you with bill
demands out of the blue. Having just gone through exactly that with my
electricity provider (where due to terrible record-keeping it suddenly
decided I was an unrelated business and owed them tens of thousands of
someone else's bill: it took months to sort out and I had to threaten
them with legal action and the press), I am a *little* paranoid about
that sort of thing right now.

In the UK at least a large number of consumer protection laws cease to
apply if you're a business (not that I am).

Just accept that if you want to start using their information for
free, you will have to give a name and email address. You will also
need to declare an IP address or CIDR, presumably for their whitelist.

Yeah. *That* I have no objection to. It's the requirement to agree to a
cut-and-paste EULA and the assumption that any users must be corporate
that is... concerning.

I am also in the UK. Just put None as the business name, then. If you're really worried, use a disposable email, but then they can't tell you if you breach their limits.

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