On Fri, May 09, 2025 at 03:32:58AM -0700, jdow wrote: > On 20250509 02:46:14, Matija Nalis wrote: > > Not only did people fully expect that e-mail they sent would be > > delivered, they would expected it would be delivered promptly. > > > > If it even got delayed by few hours, that was considered a serious > > problem, and a reason to call up the postmaster on another side and > > inform them to fix their system. > > Please excuse me, but what world do you live in? Since day one email
Earth, more precisely Europe. And you? > delivery has been best effort and not guaranteed, even on (some) RBBS > systems running on the likes of CP/M on 8080s before ARPANET and all that > fuzz. Didn't ARPANET predate 8080 processors but good half a decade? While I'm not familiar with RBBS specifically, other BBS software I used (like PCBoard) did guarantee message delivery. Only way a message could be lost if there was total system crash (usually hardware loss), and in that case (I've lived through few), you'd still get a prominent system board notice about the loss next time you logged on, or inability to log on (if the BSS went out of service permanently). So you'd know your message wasn't delivered in any case. But I was talking about e-mail (i.e. RFC822 messages over RFC821 protocol), not any kind of message-exchanging system. And I expressed my historical experiences with E-mail, circa 1992. There were a lot less e-mails then, and people here did read all e-mails they received back here back then. Something that is nigh impossible (nor wanted) today, due to proliferation of e-mails for all kinds of purposes, only small percentage of which is wanted person-to-person communication. If yours experience differ, that is fine. But we digress from this mailing list purpose. > Perhaps cooling off, despite being on a splendid roll there, would let your > mind wander enough to better real solutions to your problems. (Which > probably include me. But, I just could not permit that whopper to float by > without comment.) Perhaps you misread; I was not the one having problems with 4xx/5xx SMTP error codes handling, nor soliciting solutions for them here. Nor would I include you among "my problems", despite your (uncalled for) perkiness. -- Opinions above are GNU-copylefted.
