Rose, Bobby wrote:

I believe the correct process here is that the moderators of the SA listserver investigate why the listserver got listed on Spamcop. If it is a case where there are addresses to spamtraps in the list, then maybe the list needs to send out opt-in verification messages to weed them out.

Note that most of the mail sent from the ASF goes through hermes, not just list mail or SA list mail. I'd be a little surprised to find that one of the mailling lists are subscribed to one of Spamcop's spamtraps.

It's far more likely that there are a number of people with @apache.org addresses, that are also Spamcop subscribers, who are reporting mail forwarded from their @apache.org address as spam. Since the mail to their @apache.org account is forwarded from hermes Spamcop lists hermes.

I have no idea exactly how many people have to report a host (via reporting a spam message) to Spamcop, without the same host hitting a trap, to get a host listed but I wouldn't be surprised at all if there are indeed enough Spamcop users with @apache.org addresses to make it happen.

The only thing I know for sure is that the _only_ spam I have ever received from hermes (and I receive quite a bit of spam from hermes) has been addresses to my @apache.org account and is just being forwarded to me.

Daryl

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