Marc Perkel wrote:

I maintain various mail servers for ISP's and private companies around the world. Probably 2-3 million users in total. If your server is using SAV against any of our servers in excess of 500 or so invalid recipients per day, you are most likely on our internal blacklist.

We don't know if you are using SAV, TMDA or are just a clueless admin who bounces after accepting. Seeing as how we get over a million bounces after accepting from various clueless admins around the globe you might see how were adverse to any type of sender verification.

You might welcome it but we can't tell the difference. If you're servers end up on blacklists because of it, don't complain. You made your own bed and now you have to lay in it.



I wouldn't be on your black list unless you manually added me to it.



My list is all manual. If you have 500 - 2000 rejects a day and you look like a regular mail server you aren't listed. If you have more than that or your have over 500 a day for a few days in a row, you are most likely listed. I can't tell the difference between idiot admins who bounce after accepting and (I want to say idiot here, but I won't, opps, I did) admins who use TDMA or SAV.

Same difference to me, you get blocked. My servers are busy enough as it is (just as an example, one incoming SMTP server out of 4 with one client has consistent 80 connections per second, an average 500 connections active at any given tine, the majority, over 80%, bounces or SAV checks). So guess what? I'm going to block those servers until they smarten up.

Train the million+ dummy admins out there not to accept, then bounce and SAV might work but until then it will get you blocked.

Just my 0.02.

Regards,

Rick


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