Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
On 25.03.08 07:57, James Gray wrote:
Why are rules that look up against this list still in the base of SpamAssassin?? The SORBS dynamic list is so poorly maintained that it's practically useless

I don't find it useless. It works quite well

Unless you receive mail from any of our customers.

and if you are an unfortunate who ends up incorrectly listed in it, good luck getting off it!

it's mostly problem of bad DNS configuration.

Completely RFC compliant DNS. The default TTL is the recommended 3600 seconds for both forward and reverse. Apparently they want us to use 14400 or something equally ludicrous...it's my DNS system, not theirs.

Case at hand, the company I work for purchased a /19 address block directly from APNIC before anyone else had it (IOW, we were the first users of that block).

We now have both our external mail IP's listed in SORBS_DUL despite the fact the /24 they belong to, and the /24's on either side have NEVER been part of a dynamic pool.
what are those IPs and their DNS records?

Why? Can you remove them from the SORBS_DUL? No, then it's not really relevant then is it ;)

SORBS refuse to delist them as our MX records are different to these outgoing mail servers! FFS - we run managed services for a number of ISP's why the hell would we *want* to munge all our inbound and outbound mail through the same IP's?!?

did you try discussing this problem on SORBS mailing lists?

No, we tried using their support system as per their website (which was a tedious, time consuming wasted effort). If the forums/lists are how they "do" support for these sort of problems, then IMHO it's even more reason to deprecate the use of SORBS in the base SpamAssassin rules.

Sorbs sux, don't use it. Last time we had this problem they wanted money (and not an insignificant amount either) to remove a listing from their systems. They arbitrarily add addresses to a database the IP's owner can't control, then demand money to remove the listing; where I come from, that's called extortion.

Compared to the way other RBL's are operated, the clowns at SORBS are just plain cowboys without a clue.

Cheers,

James

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