On Jun 19, 2015, at 3:28 PM, David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote:

>> From: Philip Prindeville <philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com>
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 3:53 PM
>> To: David Jones
>> Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Must-Have Plugins?
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 2:35 PM, David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>>> But I’m on a LOT of high volume mailing lists (like mozilla-general and 
>>>> netdev) that get heavily spammed.
>>> 
>>> Filtering mailing lists is a slightly different ballgame than filtering 
>>> regular email.  Some of the items listed above
>>> don't apply to or won't work with mailing lists (as Dianne Skoll mentioned) 
>>> since they are like proxies of the
>>> original sender's mail server.
>>> 
>>> Dave
> 
>> Sorry, I also meant that many of those mailing lists are harvested… so my 
>> address has been bought and sold many, many times.
> 
> I see.  For email addresses that have gotten on those lists, what I have 
> found to be effective is to
> focus more on the reputation of the sending mail server.  Some mail servers 
> like mailchimp,
> sendgrid, constant contact, etc. will get these addresses but you can safely 
> unsubscribe from
> them and eventually get off of their lists over a few weeks.
> Most of the other mail servers can be blocked by the major RBLs and the other 
> techniques you
> mentioned in your original post.  There are safe ways to whitelist specific 
> sending IPs for domains
> where you don't have to put in a risky whitelist entry at the MTA level that 
> will open you up to
> spoofing problems.  This usually requires a little scripting to pull data 
> that has been vetted by the
> SA level then tie it back to the MTA level.
> The rest that gets to SA needs to be handled by properly trained Bayes, DBLs, 
> custom rules
> like KAM.cf, etc.


Well that was interesting.  How long at Hetzner been hosting one of the spam 
assassin.apache.org mirrors?

Because they have a very low reputation with us.

So your message, which includes the text “spamassassin.apache.org” got flagged 
and quarantined.

More than a little ironic…


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