One of the challenges of running Tapestry as an Apache project is that, due to licensing concerns, a lot of the integrations are non-starters. I keep expecting someone to say "Hey, You can't integrate with Hibernate! It's LGPL!".
Some days I fantasize about just moving the code base up to GitHub and stripping "Apache" from the name. But that adds its own set of problems, and the "cachet" of being an Apache project perhaps outweighs the convenience of being free from (the admittedly minimal) oversight and bureaucracy of Apache. Here, too, I have Clojure envy. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Wilson Ikeda <wilsonaik...@gmail.com> wrote: > My point of view: > > - Donations or funding: why not? It is something that need a deeply > analysis? why not just do it and see what happens? > > - And like SpringSource i think that child projects like Testify, > Tapestry-Cayenne should be (if possible) on the Tapestry site and deeply > integrated with it (being part of the framework and not like a second class > option that if you want to use it : "another thing to learn how to use"), > from a marketing aspect of view (like Rod Johnson did with SpringSource) the > more integrated solutions the framework have it will be more appealing to > companies because it "could means" fast development, less code and more > automation by the framework to do the basic requirement for an enterprise > app: authentication, transaction management etc.. > > I do believe that the guys that succeed and got (lots of) money from their > work did on an very active or agressive way (Rod?), is not all about money > but what they were able to achieve with the money they get: expand, hire > developers, they did a .net version, acquire groovy and grails g2one, built > a custom tomcat, a custom eclipse etc... > > Just my 2 cents. > > On 2/24/10 8:26 PM, "users-digest-h...@tapestry.apache.org" > <users-digest-h...@tapestry.apache.org> wrote: > >>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>>> Von: Howard [mailto:hls...@gmail.com] >>>>> Gesendet: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:15 PM >>>>> An: users@tapestry.apache.org >>>>> Betreff: [Tapestry Central] March of Progress >>>>> >>>>> Or should that be "Late February of Progress". I have to say I'm a bit >>>>> envious right now of Rich Hickey ... I can see that he's continuing on >>>>> like a steam roller, extending and improving Clojure. I guess he's >>>>> having some success in generating Research and Design budget from >>>>> funding companies. I can see, following his threads, that he's working >>>>> on yet more concurrency metaphors for Clojure, which is a good thing >>>>> (though eventually there'll need to be a big book just to describe them >>>>> all). >>>>> I'm on a different track, in that I fund Tapestry out of pocket while >>>>> doing training and project work. In some cases, those merge, such as >>>>> when I add specific features to Tapestry for a specific client. >>>>> I'm of two minds here: doing project work keeps me grounded in real >>>>> requirements for Tapestry. I see what works really well, and what needs >>>>> some polishing. On the other hand, I come up with ideas for new >>>>> components, improvements, and integrations all the time and barely have >>>>> enough free time (between clients, ordinary Tapestry maintenance, and >>>>> this special project) to even document my ideas, never mind implement, >>>>> test and distribute them. >>>>> So, should I set up a funding option like Rich's? Well, that wouldn't >>>>> help my current clients (I'm committed to getting their apps into >>>>> production), but it may change how I would look for future work. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Posted By Howard to Tapestry Central at 2/22/2010 10:15:00 AM >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator of Apache Tapestry The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! (971) 678-5210 http://howardlewisship.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
