Well I guess this gets into the nuances of classloaders that I am completely unfamiliar with, but I wonder why it would be any different if those few thousand classes are now packed in a jar and made available as a library to the webapp?
We run our standalone appserver from a jar, and loading is instantaneous, and it has even more classes than the webapp does, from my point of view, it should be no different. -----Original Message----- From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:42 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat6, apache2, mod_jk, non-APR, windows 2000, slow server startup with unpacked WAR Dan Beaulieu wrote: > Right, I understand the function of the reloadable attribute. What I don't > understand is how on a modern computer, registering 2000 locations in > memory/on disk to check for changes could take over a minute. Imagine just > what it is doing, it isn't even checking for changes yet, its just > registering the classes to check for changes. > you have unpackWARs="false", that means that it has to unzip/extract 2000 files in memory from your .war file, one by one Filip > Not to mention, it doesn't really make sense when using an unpackable war. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Filip Hanik - Dev Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:25 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Tomcat6, apache2, mod_jk, non-APR, windows 2000, slow server > startup with unpacked WAR > > even then, you should set reloadable="false" > the flag name is misleading, all apps are reloadable, regardless of what > that setting is (basically autoDeploy="true" -> webapps are reloadable) > > read up on the reloadable flag, you'll see that it actually would add > all 2000 files to be monitored by tomcat, and could have noticeable impact > > Filip > > Dan Beaulieu wrote: > >> Reloadable is true, and unpack is false. >> >> If we tell it to unpack it'll take a long time to start up, but then >> subsequent start ups with out deleting the webapp dir are fast. >> >> Agreed, reloadable shouldn't have that much of an impact. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Len Popp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 2:43 PM >> To: Tomcat Users List >> Subject: Re: Tomcat6, apache2, mod_jk, non-APR, windows 2000, slow server >> startup with unpacked WAR >> >> Is it unpacking the war during startup? Unzipping 2000 files takes a >> while (even if they're small). >> >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To start a new topic, e-mail: users@tomcat.apache.org To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
