well yeah, but we _already_ strip comments, that is why i was wondering what the point of a plugin-minification would be.
-igor On 9/3/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I don't find it surprising. Lot of javascript code are comments, and > if you strip them out, you have less content to compress, thus the numbers > are smaller. You can set as high compression as you want, but the comments > still make difference. (Not so much for whitespaces imho) > > -Matej > > On 9/3/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > still seems a bit counterintuitive to me. maybe gzip doesnt use a very > > high > > compression setting to trade off time. but oh well, numbers dont lie. > > > > -igor > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Dean Edwards also had a recent blog posting on this topic. His > > > recommendation is to compress and gzip content whenever possible. > > > > > > http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2007/08/js-compression/ > > > > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > gzip and minifing *do* go together. > > > > > > > > Here's a really great site that compares the different approaches. > > > > http://compressorrater.thruhere.net/ > > > > > > > > minifing before gziping shows a considerable reduction in content > size > > > > (usually between 5-10 percent). > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > so we should do one or the other, i got the impression that his > tool > > > > > complained because js was not minified even though it was gzipped. > > > > > > > > > > -igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Matej Knopp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > For certain browsers (even IE6) the GZIP compression doesn't > work. > > > And > > > > > if > > > > > > you have a lot of javascripts (YUI, dojo, ...) it can make a > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Matej > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > erm....what exactly is the point of minifing AND gziping > > > javascript > > > > > or > > > > > > > anything else? if you take a zip file and then zip it again do > > you > > > > > get a > > > > > > > smaller file? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/1/07, Ryan Sonnek < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excellent! Thanks Matej. Let me know if you have any other > > > ideas > > > > > on > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > As soon as there's an abstraction in place, i'll be happy to > > > > > create a > > > > > > > > wicketstuff project with the dojo (and maybe YUI) > compressors! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WICKET-918 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/1/07, Matej Knopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see reason why not, you can create a RFE in jira. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Matej > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Ryan Sonnek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Creating a pluggable interface for this would allow for > > > > > non-ASL > > > > > > > > > solutions > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > be hosted through wicket-stuff projects. The default > > > > > > implementation > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > stay as it is today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/1/07, Matej Knopp < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I certainly didn't want to reinvent the wheel. > But > > > all > > > > > > > > existing > > > > > > > > > > > solutions I was able to find either relied on a third > > part > > > > > > library > > > > > > > > > > > (shrinksafe) or had license not compatible with ASL. > So > > I > > > > > just > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > simple stripper. I think it still helps a lot, I > didn't > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > > > build > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > perfect stripper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you know of a solution that doesn't mean another > > > > > dependency > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > compatible with ASL, I have no objections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Matej > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/1/07, Ryan Sonnek < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been running my app through the YSlow firefox > > > plugin, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > *very* impressed on how wicket does the "right > thing" > > > most > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > > (ex: > > > > > > > > > > > > gzip css and javascript). nice work guys! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While digging through the YSlow feedback, it > suggested > > > > > that > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > javascript > > > > > > > > > > > > should be "minified". This led me to the wicket > > > > > > > > JavascriptStripper, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > after enabling it for my application, YSlow still > > > reports > > > > > that > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > > > scripts > > > > > > > > > > > > are not minified. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There seem to be a number of javascript compression > > > tools > > > > > out > > > > > > > > there, > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering if this functionality could be "pluggable" > > in > > > > > > > > wicket. I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > interested in trying out a few different options to > > see > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > results: > > > > > > > > > > > > * JSMin - > > > > > http://inconspicuous.org/projects/jsmin/jsmin.java > > > > > > > > > > > > * Dojo Shrink Safe - > > > > > http://dojotoolkit.org/docs/shrinksafe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My impression is that the Wicket JavascriptStripper > is > > a > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > > starting > > > > > > > > > > > > solution, but there are quite a few very advanced > > > > > solutions > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > > there, > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > it would be great if wicket could leverage them > > instead > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "re-inventing > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > wheel". Has anyone looked into this in the past? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
