Yes I know Eelco. That is why there are so much troubles in Java programming land. Misusing of basic concepts ... That is why one needs some sort of COC, because there is lot`s of b.s. around ... J2EE 1.4 countained so much of it that lots of developers refused to use it And it had to be rewriten ... Apache Struts ... JSF ... Why did you started Wicket? Did`nt you wrote that MVC is kind of missconceptin? And I ask you Who told that? Eelco Hilenius? Yes and you were probably right. And in that time you with the tapestry was alone against the JSF Struts community. So accpet pleace that someone else is seeing miisconceptions and b.s. in other aspetcs of java programming and habits. OK? :-)
Can we finish? As you can see I do not share view of major java programmers but accepting the situation ... :-)) Robo ----- Originálna Správa ----- Od: \"Eelco Hillenius\" Komu: Poslaná: 06.09.2007 19:08 Predmet: Re: Re: Re: Re: Wicket libraries stack trace > On 06 Sep 2007 18:11:09 +0200 (CEST), Robo wrote: > > After small troubles I had with it I know it. But from my point of view it > > is not correct to initiatie not used libraries just by including it in App > > Server classpath. From my point of view lib is lib, and when nto called by > > developer it sould not be initiated by App server. I runned into troubles > > with dependecies SELF initialized itself. I saw this behaviur several times > > before but everytime I`m suprised. As I said from my point of view, lib is > > lib. But this guides me to troubles :-) But to be concrete I need to > > develop demo app using fove frameworks, not using Maven :-), so I put every > > lib in wicket into lib dir to not to solve missing lib troubles when > > building demo app. But it raised contrary, unnessesary \\\"self living\\\" > > lib problem. > > You can\'t really depend on libs following such rules. All sorts of > frameworks do this, from Guice to Seam to logging libraries, and it > can get you in trouble with XML handling as well. As a general rule, > only include what you need. > > Eelco > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________ Mozaika storočia denníka SME - http://mozaika.sme.sk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
