It is about 32MB. Kind a big page :) 

Matej Knopp-2 wrote:
> 
> Turn on SecondLevelCacheSessionStore, and use FilePageStore as
> IPageStore (specified in session store constructor). Then go to your
> tmp dir and you should be able to find the serialized pages there.
> 
> -Matej
> 
> On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> How can I figure it out?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Johan Compagner wrote:
>> >
>> > if you save the page to disk how big is it?
>> >
>> > johan
>> >
>> >
>> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Indeed, it is a very big component hierarchy (It contains at least 3
>> >> levels
>> >> of nested AjaxTabbedPanel components).
>> >> The application is, in fact, a single page and it uses a lot of ajax
>> to
>> >> perform the updates. The model reflect the component hierarchy
>> >> (Appliction
>> >> has a single modelObject which nests another objects corresponding to
>> >> each
>> >> component). I do not have a lot of detaching logic, because it is
>> >> important
>> >> to have all the data in the model (caching), also because the services
>> >> are
>> >> very costly operations.
>> >>
>> >> If this description is not enough for replication, I will be glad to
>> help
>> >> by
>> >> giving you another details.
>> >>
>> >> Alex.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > How big is the page? Sounds like a really, really big component
>> >> > hierarchy. Then it sounds reasonable that the httpsession store is
>> >> > much faster: it keeps it in ram, and doesn't use serialization until
>> >> > the session is serialized (server shutting down, deciding to put
>> >> > session to disk or replication of session across cluster) iirc.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think we would appreciate some way of replicating your results. I
>> >> > assume you can't share the actual code, but could you share a
>> spin-off
>> >> > of the page's component structure and a Model that replicates the
>> data
>> >> > stuff's size (including the detach logic)?
>> >> >
>> >> > Martijn
>> >> >
>> >> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If the pages wouldn't be serializable, it wouldn't work in
>> development
>> >> >> mode.
>> >> >> Is it right?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think that it is not necessarily about how large is application,
>> in
>> >> my
>> >> >> case it is about how large is the model I'm working with for that
>> >> >> specific
>> >> >> request (ajax request).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My action was: fetch a subview of a very large table 300x300, each
>> >> cell
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> a heavy model object.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Alex.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Johan Compagner wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > that looks very strange to me. We have also a very large app here
>> >> and
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> > dont notice a difference
>> >> >> > So i am very curious what is happening at your place then. Are
>> you
>> >> sure
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > example that the pages
>> >> >> > are serializable ?  That we don't have constantly exceptions?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > johan
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Maybe the profiling was not a perfect one. But still, I have to
>> >> give
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> >> using
>> >> >> >> SecondSessionLevelStore just because the responsiveness of the
>> >> >> >> application
>> >> >> >> is very slow.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Johan Compagner wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > invocation count 1??
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > So you only do 1 request and you profile that?
>> >> >> >> > thats not a good test. You have to do plenty and multiply on 
>> the
>> >> >> same
>> >> >> >> > time
>> >> >> >> > (10 for 100 request or something like that)
>> >> >> >> > to really see the difference. (and have a warm up phase)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > johan
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On 9/10/07, Alex Objelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Matej, I must disagree with you regarding performance issues
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> SecondLevelSessionStore. I've reverted the
>> >> >> Application#newSessionStore
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> HttpSessionStore and this significantly improved the
>> application
>> >> >> >> overall
>> >> >> >> >> performance. Maybe this is not so obvious for small
>> >> applications,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> >> it is about a large one - things changes.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Below, you will find attached two images. The first one is a
>> >> >> profiling
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> an
>> >> >> >> >> action when working with HttpSessionStore, the second one is
>> a
>> >> >> >> profiling
>> >> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> >> the same action when using SecondSessionLevelStore. The
>> >> difference
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> >> huge:
>> >> >> >> >> 593ms vs 174420ms. I cannot explain what exactly is going on,
>> >> but
>> >> >> I've
>> >> >> >> >> noticed that by switching from default
>> SecondLevelSessionStore
>> >> to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> HttpSessionStore improved a lot the responsiveness of the
>> >> >> application.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Alex.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p12588790/HttpSessionStore.jpg
>> >> >> >> >>
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p12588790/SecondSessionLevelStore.jpg
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Matej Knopp-2 wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > You can revert to httpsessionstore by changing
>> >> >> >> >> > Application.newSessionStore method. But that's not
>> >> recommended.
>> >> >> What
>> >> >> >> >> > are your performance problems? I doubt it is caused by the
>> >> >> session
>> >> >> >> >> > store.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > -Matej
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On 9/7/07, jamieballing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> We are trying to do some performance troubleshooting and
>> want
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> disable
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> second level page cache.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Is there any way to do this?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >> >> Jamie
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