no one is asking anyone here to become a maven guru. All we are asking
is that they use it to generate a quickstart project, which simply
involves following the directions.

-igor

On 9/11/07, Ayodeji Aladejebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> maven maven maven, that is if all developers all over the world knows what
> maven is. Ant was what i first knew until i started hearing maven and infact
> it was mainly because of wicket that i learnt maven early before a netbeans
> module came out.
>
> so really not all developers will have some patience to first google maven
> fundamentals which is why i believe in:
>
> 1. Step 1, Install Your IDE (Everybody knows that)
> 2. Step 2, Install This Plugin (IDEs make that simple)
> 3. Step 3, Create a new Wicket Project and then BOOM it works without even a
> line of code yet (as much as i hated SWT, i learnt it this way)
>
> And lets remember the success of the ASP.NET family, you install Visual
> Studio and then BOOM your sample project is ready. Then you see this 2 days
> old developer feeling like he can code every website. that "feeling" is the
> success of every developer tool and dont let us forget that
>
> The Java community has a plethora of tools but as newer developers come on
> board, they need a clean entrance and maven is not what you learn at the
> early stage of your developer career (even though its simple to use, infact
> simpler than i thought cuz i hated Ant)
>
>
> My take,
>
> While off course maven is still the used tool, but the community  should
> bring the useful IDE plugins to the forefront for starters
>
> Thanks
>
> On 9/11/07, Gerolf Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 9/10/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I haven't used an Eclipse plugin for maven since the command line
> > > version works really well and my previous experiences with mevenide
> > > were less than ok (talking about 2 years ago!)
> > >
> > > Martijn
> >
> >
> >
> > there seem to be a new maven-eclipse-integration plugin in town:
> > http://code.google.com/p/q4e/
> > it's supposed to be part of the eclipse foundation.
> > i haven't tried it out yet, but as i didn't really like m2eclipse, i will
> > definitely give it a shot.
> >
> >   gerolf
> >
> > --
> > > Buy Wicket in Action: http://manning.com/dashorst
> > > Apache Wicket 1.3.0-beta3 is released
> > > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3.0-beta3/
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