I will try to cut some time to do that. Konstantin Ignatyev PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000 Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)
----- Original Message ---- From: Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: users@wicket.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 10:52:16 AM Subject: Re: First Day Disgust! On 9/11/07, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You are absolutely correct: lots of issues with Maven all the time and it > would be really beneficial if various "Lets Get Started" tutorials do not > rely on that and rely on Ant only to do everything they need to do. > > Ideally all the libraries will come with it too, and if download size is too > big then ant's get command is here to resque. > > It is less sexy than transitive dependencies resolution etc. But it is near > bulletproof and it is that doctor is ordered for tutorials. Maven is > unstable because of widespread practice of using version ranges for > dependencies and plugins and it makes build unrepeatable because build > depends on server side. There are pro and contra arguments of course but I > think that for Tutorials there are no pro-s in Maven. I think we have enough users by now who support this view. The next big question is, who wants to contribute? Wicket-stuff is a great place to put it in first (we can move adopt it as a core project once we all agree). Eelco --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]