if the rendering of the page (the response phase) always uses a committed
transaction
then that wouldn't happen

But if a commit fails, shouldn't you report that to the user anyway??

johan


On Jan 24, 2008 10:59 AM, Sam Hough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Johan,
>
> But isn't wicket _very_ different in that it keeps a representation of the
> page on the server? So in frameworks other than Wicket, Echo and Tapestry
> if
> the request cycle fails the page state can't get contaminated?
>
> Cheers
>
> Sam
>
>
> Johan Compagner wrote:
> >
> > so you want to have the commit cylce around the request not the response
> > (so in onBeforeRender() of a page the commit (or rollback) should be
> done
> > so
> > that all the data that is used in the response is valid)
> >
> > But i guess with a filter (session in view and the sort) around what
> ever
> > framework you use, you have these problems all the time..
> >
> > johan
> >
> >
> > On Jan 24, 2008 10:32 AM, Sam Hough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hello Johan,
> >>
> >> The simplest case I can think of is the one where the user clicks to
> >> create
> >> a new record and I want to put a link in the page to that new record.
> As
> >> I
> >> understand it I need to be careful not to add the link to the page
> until
> >> after the commit was successful. If there was an error and the user
> >> managed
> >> to load that page again I don't want them linking to an object that
> >> wasn't
> >> created.
> >>
> >> We are currently using pretty fine grained interactions with the model
> so
> >> it
> >> would be quite easy to forget and modify the page too early when the db
> >> transaction might be rolled back.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Sam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Johan Compagner wrote:
> >> >
> >> > So you are worried about double submit, when using backbutton, of the
> >> > same page that has invalid data?
> >> > But if that happens then the second time has the same error as the
> >> first
> >> > time.
> >> >
> >> > On 1/24/08, Sam Hough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Igor,
> >> >>
> >> >> Am I at least correct that we shouldn't only commit at the end of
> >> request
> >> >> processing as you might in struts? (because I need to know if the
> >> commit
> >> >> was
> >> >> good before updating the page)
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm not really saying that you can't safely handle transactions and
> >> page
> >> >> state in Wicket just sanity checking that I need to take more care?
> eg
> >> If
> >> >> calling a method that may fail I shouldn't pass an argument that is
> >> >> attached
> >> >> to the page that might be modified by that method before the commit
> >> >> works?
> >> >>
> >> >> I take your point that quite often we would just show the user an
> >> error
> >> >> page
> >> >> but assuming we get the back button to work properly I think I need
> to
> >> >> ensure the server side page is in a valid state.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the tip about Spring annotations, we were just using a
> >> single
> >> >> commit at the end of the request.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >> Sam
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