instead of
item.add(new link("foo") { onclick() });
do
item.add(new bookmarkablepagelink("foo", page.class));
-igor
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How? I asked how to do it before and nobody suggested this as a
> possibility.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO
>
> dataview can work in a stateless mode, just use bookmarkable links inside it
>
> -igor
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Regardless, at the very least this makes your site look "weird" and
> > unprofessional when google puts a jsessionid on your url. There has got
> to
> > be some negative effect when google visits it the second time and the
> > jsessionid has changed but it sees the same exact content. Worst case,
> > it'll think you're trying to trick it.
> >
> > About those 404s, I'm finding that with the fix I provided I don't get a
> > 404, but the links refresh the page I'm already on. IE: If I'm on A, and
> a
> > link to B is non-bookmarkable, clicking B refreshes A.
> >
> > This issue is very disconcerting to me. It's one of the reasons I wish
> that
> > DataView had an option to work in stateless mode. Cause if I ban cookies
> > and Googlebot visits my home page (with a navigator on it), it'll try to
> > follow all these page links and from its perspective, they all lead back
> to
> > the first page. So it's kinda a catch-22: Include the jsessionid in the
> > urls and get bad SEO or remove the jsessionid and get bad SEO :(
> >
> > Perhaps the answer to my prayers is a combination of the noindex/nofollow
> > meta tag with a sitemap.xml. I'm thinking I can put a nofollow on the
> home
> > page (so googlebot doesn't try to follow the navigator links) and use the
> > sitemap.xml to point out the individual pages I want it to index.
> >
> >
> > Matej: can you go into more detail about your hybrid URL statement?
> Won't
> > google index, for example, /home and /home.1 if I use it? When it
> follows
> > the next page, won't the url become /home.1.2 or something? That .2 is a
> > page version: If google indexes that and tries to visit it again, won't
> it
> > report about an invalid session?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matej Knopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:10 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO
> >
> > On the other hand, crawling non-bookmarkable pages is not very useful
> > anyway, since ?wicket:interface url will always get page expired when
> > you click on the result.
> >
> > However, preserving session makes lot of sense with hybrid url. Google
> > remembers the original url (without page instance) while indexing the
> > real page (after redirect).
> >
> > I think though that the crawler is quite advanced. I'm would think it
> > supports cookies (at least JSESSIONID) as well as it evaluates some of
> > the javascript on page.
> >
> > -Matej
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > right. if you strip sessionid then all your nonbookmarkable urls will
> > > resolve to a 404. that will probably drop your rank a lot faster....
> > >
> > > -igor
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > the problem is that then you have to have all stateless pages. Else
> > google
> > > > can't crawl your website.
> > > > And if that is the case then you could be completely stateless so
> you
> > dont
> > > > have a session (id) to worry about at all.
> > > >
> > > > johan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Zappaterrini, Larry <
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > When Google asks to not have special treatment for their bot,
> they
> > are
> > > > > referring to content more than anything. Regarding the session id
> > being
> > > > > coded in the URL, see the Technical guidelines section of
> Google's
> > > > > Webmaster Guidelines -
> > > > >
> > http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769#desi
> > > > > gn
> > > > >
> > > > > It specifically recommends "allow(ing) search bots to crawl your
> > sites
> > > > > without session IDs or arguments that track their path through
> the
> > > > > site."
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Johan Compagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:35 AM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO
> > > > >
> > > > > isnt google always saying that you shouldn't alter behavior of
> your
> > site
> > > > > depending of it is there bot or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Artur W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > igor.vaynberg wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > also by doing what you have done users with cookies disabled
> > wont be
> > > > > > > able to use your site...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In my opinion session id is a problem. Google index the same
> page
> > > > > again
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About the users without cookies we can do like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > static class Unbuffered extends WebResponse {
> > > > > >
> > > > > > private static final String[] botAgents = {
> > > > > "onetszukaj",
> > > > > > "googlebot",
> > > > > > "appie", "architext",
> > > > > > "jeeves", "bjaaland", "ferret",
> "gulliver",
> > > > > > "harvest", "htdig",
> > > > > > "linkwalker", "lycos_", "moget",
> > > > > "muscatferret",
> > > > > > "myweb", "nomad",
> > > > > > "scooter",
> > > > > > "yahoo!\\sslurp\\schina", "slurp",
> > "weblayers",
> > > > > > "antibot", "bruinbot",
> > > > > > "digout4u",
> > > > > > "echo!", "ia_archiver", "jennybot",
> > "mercator",
> > > > > > "netcraft", "msnbot",
> > > > > > "petersnews",
> > > > > > "unlost_web_crawler", "voila",
> "webbase",
> > > > > > "webcollage", "cfetch",
> > > > > > "zyborg",
> > > > > > "wisenutbot", "robot", "crawl", "spider"
> };
> > /*
> > > > > and
> > > > > > so on... */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > public Unbuffered(final HttpServletResponse res)
> {
> > > > > > super(res);
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @Override
> > > > > > public CharSequence encodeURL(final CharSequence url) {
> > > > > > return isAgent() ? url : super.encodeURL(url);
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > private static boolean isAgent() {
> > > > > >
> > > > > > String agent =
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > ((WebRequest)RequestCycle.get().getRequest()).getHttpServletRequest().ge
> > > > > tHeader("User-Agent");
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for(String bot : botAgents) {
> > > > > > if
> > (agent.toLowerCase().indexOf(bot) !=
> > > > > -1)
> > > > > > {
> > > > > > return true;
> > > > > > }
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > return false;
> > > > > > }
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didn't test this code but I do similar thing in my old
> > application
> > > > > in
> > > > > > Spring and it works.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Take care,
> > > > > > Artur
> > > > > >
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